Fer.Fan wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 21:15
McLaren is basic car, lack of undercat, lack of inovations, no big deal. Aston is different story, even Haas are far more radical then Mclaren.
McLaren showed a simple car with many bits hidden, and you can still see plenty of clever ideas and innovations, so I don't know what you are talking about. Maybe you glanced over the car and it seemed basic to the naked eye, and you saw the Aston with its long sidepods and that seemed striking to look at. Otherwise I don't see how you could arrive to this conclusion.
The truth is, out of the cars that have been released so far, McLaren is the one who has dared to push things the most. What Aston has done is nothing that we haven't seen before. The concept of an undercut is well known, and it has been used in the past regulations as well (FW-41 is an example). Aston just pushed it to the extreme. Whereas HAAS, has gone for a basic implementation of these rules. They have pushed their sidepods to the front, widened them so that they can push the tire wake away (basically trying to replace bargeboards), and sloped the sidepods so that the clean air coming from the other side can go towards the diffuser in the rear end. Nothing too daring going on there.
McLaren on the other hand, has completely switched the suspension configuration, going pull-rod on the front, push-rod on the rear (and the rear has a pretty interesting layout, trying to maximize space for airflow over the venturi tunnel below). McLaren is also using a smart tea-tray solution that takes air from the front, squirting it into the sidepods which then push that air outwards to try and deflect the tire wake. And their cooling solution maximizes the performance of the beam-wing and the rear wing.
McLaren had covered every floor detail, the leading edge of the floor, leading edge of the tea tray, and the diffuser. And they also showed no high quality images on critical angles. Yes there are renders, but they have been simplified so much to the point the front wing on the render is not even legal. So there's plenty more to see on that car.
So anyway, point is, McLaren's car is definitely not basic. They have taken the most risks. And that could go either way for them. It will either bite them in the ass and make them fall down the order, or it will pay off and get them closer to the front.
Nevertheless, given how much hype Ferrari has been getting this off-season, it's making me overly curious to see these presumably completely innovative aero solutions that they may have come up with.