Mercedes floor surface
Question is, how useful will that be for other teams? For this Merc, it seems to work well in concert with the relatively tall, concave, outward-cambered sidepod wall, a random, relatively shallow turning vane around that area wouldn't be that useful for teams with completely different sidepod shapes I'd imagine...siskue2005 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 11:17Yes, it looks like the mirror support and wavy floor is within rules and easy to copy according to ex F1 aerodynamics
Yes true, i could see Aston Martin using it who have a similar side pod areaHungarianRacer wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 12:30Question is, how useful will that be for other teams? For this Merc, it seems to work well in concert with the relatively tall, concave, outward-cambered sidepod wall, a random, realtively shallow turning vane around that area wouldn't be that useful for teams with completely different sidepod shapes I'd imagine...siskue2005 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 11:17Yes, it looks like the mirror support and wavy floor is within rules and easy to copy according to ex F1 aerodynamics
I’m not sure that we are seeing the final product here, there looks to be something draped over the floor in front of the pressure measuring tubes.
Is this a serious post?atanatizante wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 23:31http://postimg.cc/rKd3zc5G
This W13 picture somehow resembles with Mercedes AMG Project-One Hypercar :
http://postimg.cc/JDfJqbdz
Wild speculation
Warning bells went off for me the moment the picture of that floor hit Twitter. It's all a bit too convenient to see such amazingly clear images of sensitive aero surfaces from a closed filming day.Stu wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 12:43
I’m not sure that we are seeing the final product here, there looks to be something draped over the floor in front of the pressure measuring tubes.
It could be the start of ‘the phoney war’ for 2022; getting other teams to waste their (restricted) CFD runs on investigation of how it works.
Depending on how you read the rules around double curvature in the floor, there is the potential for it not to be legal. There is no floor edge wing either, and that has the potential to be very powerful.
Shape of the fuel tank could play a role, longer skinnier, or shorter fatter. Volume of the battery pack will also play a role since it is forced to be placed inside the safety cell by the regulations, almost forcing it to be placed under the fuel cell. Ultimate Volume of the fuel cell itself, with Merc tending to be one of the most efficient cars on the grid by way of PU efficiency (we used to see them dominating races while using less than 90kg of fuel back in 2014 and 2015 when FOM put out the total fuel used graphic) and also by way of lower drag, and this less total time down the straight.dans79 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 01:04I was just getting ready to point that out myself.ENGINE TUNER wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 00:56By regulation the fuel tank must be behind the driver and inside the safety cell, impossible the put the PU "immediately behind cockpit "timoth wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 20:03https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... 9tPtR.html
The part about PU positioning (Merc vs Ferrari) is very interesting. Merc has pushed PU as backward as possible, while Ferrari has pushed PU as forward as possible. There were rumors that with the understeer-y nature of new cars, RedBull was trying to put PU forward and immediately behind the cockpit. We haven't seen RedBull yet, but Ferrari clearly has done this.
It seems that in terms of weight distribution and Center of Gravity, this PU placement has helped Ferrari, but Merc on the other hand has much slimmer sidepods thanks to pushing PU backward and using more centerline cooling.
I wonder which solution will be more effective with the new cars?!!
I doubt any of them have a PU in a much different place than the others.
Especially since the regulation floor is smaller now than at any time since 2016.zibby43 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 05:12That’s merely one facet of the packaging.JordanMugen wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 02:46Yes, that is a nice feature. I guess that's some kind of loophole in the wording. I think those two loopholes (this winglet and the AM/Ferrari double bib on the tea-tray) are the kinds of things that can be quickly and easily copied by everyone.
I wouldn't go that far, the Mercedes' famously large plenum is not even sticking out unlike on the McLaren. I think it's more of a mild packaging like say the 2019 Force India.
I’d argue that in virtually every other respect, this is Merc’s most incredible packaging job ever.
The floor real estate is something to behold.
The wheels/tires are bigger and heavier than ever, thus the suspension arms must be beefed up to sustain the increased loading.
Two options:DarthPlagueisTheVise wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 13:35I am honestly puzzled as to why merc are releasing so much footage of the new car. They could have just done the launch with the show car and then do a shakedown like RB