On the contrary, they have left themselves a lot of leeway to make any changes if they feel the teams are exploiting loopholesadrianjordan wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 00:45Didn't the FIA say they wouldn't be introducing any rule tweeks mid season anyway?CjC wrote: ↑26 Feb 2022, 18:05Hopefully the fact that it looks like a solution can be found by one/ some teams then the FIA shouldnt need to get involvedSmallSoldier wrote: ↑26 Feb 2022, 17:52It’s a very good sign that McLaren didn’t show the amount of porpoising other teams did, it is an small advantage not having to focus resources to solving the issue (even if the issue is something that you can copy from another competitor)… According to what I’ve read so far, dealing with it isn’t that simple as a couple of cuts in the floor or just raising the ride height (which ultimately have a negative effect in performance), it is related to the shape of the Tunnels themselves and the ratios between the inlet and smallest section.
The rest of the teams will find a solution (I just hope that they don’t lobby the FIA to change the rules and introduce simpler solutions, like the introduction of suspension components currently banned to help them solve the issue).
There is no pecking order yet, McLaren’s lap times could have well been done with low fuel (although, the speed traps seem to indicate that they weren’t glory runs, so I doubt it)… The only takeaways from testing should be that the car is:
A) Reliable
B) Composed (no reports of it been twitchy)
C) Balanced (not over or under steery)
D) Not suffering as much as others from Porpoising
If we consider that the car Mclaren presented in testing looked “simple” (with parts in early stage of development), then it is a great sign
Well, we also don't know where McLaren will stand anyway.
But they are obviously not talking about loopholes but about the FIA reacting to Porpoising.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 08:39On the contrary, they have left themselves a lot of leeway to make any changes if they feel the teams are exploiting loopholesadrianjordan wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 00:45Didn't the FIA say they wouldn't be introducing any rule tweeks mid season anyway?
What they have done is reduce the need for from a unanimous vote by teams, down to only needing the support of 8 teams, along with FIA & FOM, to make in-season rule changesSmallSoldier wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 08:39On the contrary, they have left themselves a lot of leeway to make any changes if they feel the teams are exploiting loopholesadrianjordan wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 00:45Didn't the FIA say they wouldn't be introducing any rule tweeks mid season anyway?
I believe you are spot on, with a “basic” car, you have a way better chance of understanding what works and what doesn’t… If not, you can easily go down a rabbit hole trying to understand what is causing you pain.mwillems wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 17:23But they are obviously not talking about loopholes but about the FIA reacting to Porpoising.SmallSoldier wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 08:39On the contrary, they have left themselves a lot of leeway to make any changes if they feel the teams are exploiting loopholesadrianjordan wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 00:45
Didn't the FIA say they wouldn't be introducing any rule tweeks mid season anyway?
It doesn't appear to be causing a safety issue but when we do some laps in anger we will see. I wonder how much of a time deficit comes from porpoising. I also wonder if perhaps Mclaren wanted to start with a clean concept and put parts on and see what might affect the car step by step, rather than turning up on track and having to unravel the design as other teams may have to. If that was the case then that was smart forward thinking.
Isn’t that for “normal” changes to regulations (for example, changing the minimum weight), but they can act faster and without the teams input for rule changes in regards to potential loopholes in the regulations? Trying to find the Brawn interview where he made mention of it… But so much information was out there during the last couple of weeks that I may be confused at this point.the EDGE wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 17:40What they have done is reduce the need for from a unanimous vote by teams, down to only needing the support of 8 teams, along with FIA & FOM, to make in-season rule changesSmallSoldier wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 08:39On the contrary, they have left themselves a lot of leeway to make any changes if they feel the teams are exploiting loopholesadrianjordan wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 00:45
Didn't the FIA say they wouldn't be introducing any rule tweeks mid season anyway?
Well they’ve always had the ability to make ‘rules clarifications’ & changes for safety, where they see fit, but that’s the only new rule I’m aware of that gives them greater powersSmallSoldier wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 20:10Isn’t that for “normal” changes to regulations (for example, changing the minimum weight), but they can act faster and without the teams input for rule changes in regards to potential loopholes in the regulations? Trying to find the Brawn interview where he made mention of it… But so much information was out there during the last couple of weeks that I may be confused at this point.the EDGE wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 17:40What they have done is reduce the need for from a unanimous vote by teams, down to only needing the support of 8 teams, along with FIA & FOM, to make in-season rule changesSmallSoldier wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 08:39
On the contrary, they have left themselves a lot of leeway to make any changes if they feel the teams are exploiting loopholes
Thanks a lot for this, it clarifies it for me!the EDGE wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 20:43Well they’ve always had the ability to make ‘rules clarifications’ & changes for safety, where they see fit, but that’s the only new rule I’m aware of that gives them greater powersSmallSoldier wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 20:10Isn’t that for “normal” changes to regulations (for example, changing the minimum weight), but they can act faster and without the teams input for rule changes in regards to potential loopholes in the regulations? Trying to find the Brawn interview where he made mention of it… But so much information was out there during the last couple of weeks that I may be confused at this point.
Explained here: https://the-race.com/formula-1/the-fias ... loopholes/