2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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mika vs michael wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 23:15
Well if Mercedes bring a car without sidepods then it won't really matter what Ferrari or others bring to Bahrain. Let's wait and see.
That’s a quality post, amazing.

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mika vs michael wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 23:15
Well if Mercedes bring a car without sidepods then it won't really matter what Ferrari or others bring to Bahrain. Let's wait and see.
I hardly doubt this will happen...

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mika vs michael wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 23:15
Well if Mercedes bring a car without sidepods then it won't really matter what Ferrari or others bring to Bahrain. Let's wait and see.
I don’t think “no sidepods” is the killer app you think it is.

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JPower wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 02:47
mika vs michael wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 23:15
Well if Mercedes bring a car without sidepods then it won't really matter what Ferrari or others bring to Bahrain. Let's wait and see.
I don’t think “no sidepods” is the killer app you think it is.
It is and it's quite simple really. If Mercedes have managed a game changing reduction of cooler volume, it will result in a significant drag reduction. It will put them in an aerodynamic window that no one else can reach.
A lion must kill its prey.

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AR3-GP wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 03:04
JPower wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 02:47
mika vs michael wrote:
09 Mar 2022, 23:15
Well if Mercedes bring a car without sidepods then it won't really matter what Ferrari or others bring to Bahrain. Let's wait and see.
I don’t think “no sidepods” is the killer app you think it is.
It is and it's quite simple really. If Mercedes have managed a game changing reduction of cooler volume, it will result in a significant drag reduction. It will put them in an aerodynamic window that no one else can reach.
We’ll see. I think there will be more than one way to hit the target with these regs.

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JPower wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 03:09
AR3-GP wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 03:04
JPower wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 02:47

I don’t think “no sidepods” is the killer app you think it is.
It is and it's quite simple really. If Mercedes have managed a game changing reduction of cooler volume, it will result in a significant drag reduction. It will put them in an aerodynamic window that no one else can reach.
We’ll see. I think there will be more than one way to hit the target with these regs.
It's not a question of aerodynamic concept. It's a question of cooler volume regardless of aero concept. The concern with the Mercedes isn't so much that they have a "small sidepod" because obviously coolers will need to go somewhere else. It's that they have possibly reduced the amount of coolers they need to run due to some innovation in cooling technology.
A lion must kill its prey.

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AR3-GP wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 03:22
JPower wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 03:09
AR3-GP wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 03:04


It is and it's quite simple really. If Mercedes have managed a game changing reduction of cooler volume, it will result in a significant drag reduction. It will put them in an aerodynamic window that no one else can reach.
We’ll see. I think there will be more than one way to hit the target with these regs.
It's not a question of aerodynamic concept. It's a question of cooler volume regardless of aero concept. The concern with the Mercedes isn't so much that they have a "small sidepod" because obviously coolers will need to go somewhere else. It's that they have possibly reduced the amount of coolers they need to run due to some innovation in cooling technology.
Like I said, we’ll see. Only a few hours until we can stop speculating.

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AR3-GP wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 03:22
JPower wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 03:09
AR3-GP wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 03:04


It is and it's quite simple really. If Mercedes have managed a game changing reduction of cooler volume, it will result in a significant drag reduction. It will put them in an aerodynamic window that no one else can reach.
We’ll see. I think there will be more than one way to hit the target with these regs.
It's not a question of aerodynamic concept. It's a question of cooler volume regardless of aero concept. The concern with the Mercedes isn't so much that they have a "small sidepod" because obviously coolers will need to go somewhere else. It's that they have possibly reduced the amount of coolers they need to run due to some innovation in cooling technology.
It did happened though

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SmallSoldier wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 08:59
AR3-GP wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 03:22
JPower wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 03:09

We’ll see. I think there will be more than one way to hit the target with these regs.
It's not a question of aerodynamic concept. It's a question of cooler volume regardless of aero concept. The concern with the Mercedes isn't so much that they have a "small sidepod" because obviously coolers will need to go somewhere else. It's that they have possibly reduced the amount of coolers they need to run due to some innovation in cooling technology.
It did happened though
doesn't look like to me, looks like they rotated the sidepod 90 degrees anti-clockwise, the intake area looks very similar to before.

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dialtone wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 09:10
SmallSoldier wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 08:59
AR3-GP wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 03:22


It's not a question of aerodynamic concept. It's a question of cooler volume regardless of aero concept. The concern with the Mercedes isn't so much that they have a "small sidepod" because obviously coolers will need to go somewhere else. It's that they have possibly reduced the amount of coolers they need to run due to some innovation in cooling technology.
It did happened though
doesn't look like to me, looks like they rotated the sidepod 90 degrees anti-clockwise, the intake area looks very similar to before.
It will be controversial… There is a lot of sidepod missing compared to everyone else when I look at it… It is the tightest package by a long margin in all of the grid.

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I disagree, from the pictures that's not how it looks like, I think it's the same tight packaging they had in Barcelona, just a different shape of the intake and there are teams with smaller intakes like Alpha Tauri. I'm not saying it's not an interesting concept, it's not a no-sidepod concept, they moved the undercut above the sidepod and removed that area entirely.

But with that said, I'm not sure we'll resolve much discussing this in the Ferrari thread.

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dialtone wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 09:16
I disagree, from the pictures that's not how it looks like, I think it's the same tight packaging they had in Barcelona, just a different shape of the intake and there are teams with smaller intakes like Alpha Tauri. I'm not saying it's not an interesting concept, it's not a no-sidepod concept, they moved the undercut above the sidepod and removed that area entirely.

But with that said, I'm not sure we'll resolve much discussing this in the Ferrari thread.
i agree, not the place to discuss the W13… I just posted a picture noting the difference on the W13 thread.

Been said that, having small / zero pods or whatever the new marketing name for their design will be doesn’t mean they will be faster… All designan come with a compromise, until Q3 on Saturday next week we will not know who got it right… I love the fact that there are so many different takes to the regulations so far.

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It's looking great for ferrari as of now.
Hope they build up on it

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silver wrote:
10 Mar 2022, 17:05
Shows how Ferrari indeed have looked at every possible concept - as they have said so - before deciding to go with their current one.