2022 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

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Emag wrote:
11 Mar 2022, 17:04
Somewhat irrelevant, but McLaren is apparently the only team that opposed Haas having an extra testing session.

Even on a normal situation I would say that's petty, but given how things are going, it's so much worse. I would be humiliated. It looks like they are scared of Haas overtaking them ...

What a f*king disaster this has been. Everything I have read about McLaren since this test started has progressively angered me.

It's now borderline "weekend-ruining" levels of anger. The sh!t that's been going on is so depressing.

Horrible.
Bit of an overreaction. They have a small issue that needs parts sent from Woking and will arrive in time for tomorrow. Wait until the end of testing before making any sort of judgement. It's not ideal not getting the running in, but they'll do a condensed program tomorrow to cover everything they need.

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It was also widely reported that multiple teams had an issue with the Haas test but McL was the one that "officially" complained. If they were "scared" of Haas, why would they give them extra time to test before/after the main session each day? esp. in more representative night conditions? this is a silly argument.

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What ever the cause of the non running, it is still non running and nothing else is getting tested either. Surely they could cobble a solution, even of it is not legal, to get some other testing done.

Lost running time now can never be caught up.
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Wow. Here is me popping on here to gather useful info about Mclaren and the final preseason test - both good and bad.
Turns out there is nothing of use, just childish, overreaction from a few individuals poisoning the thread.

I'm off to see what Gary Anderson has to say instead...thats how bad its got!

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Big Tea wrote:
11 Mar 2022, 17:21
What ever the cause of the non running, it is still non running and nothing else is getting tested either. Surely they could cobble a solution, even of it is not legal, to get some other testing done.

Lost running time now can never be caught up.
They are running though. Lando has been testing a brand new floor this afternoon, and just got close to Ferrari's pace on the C3s. They're still ticking away, it's only long runs than need to be cut short.

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Xero wrote:
11 Mar 2022, 17:23
Big Tea wrote:
11 Mar 2022, 17:21
What ever the cause of the non running, it is still non running and nothing else is getting tested either. Surely they could cobble a solution, even of it is not legal, to get some other testing done.

Lost running time now can never be caught up.
They are running though. Lando has been testing a brand new floor this afternoon, and just got close to Ferrari's pace on the C3s. They're still ticking away, it's only long runs than need to be cut short.
I am behind on my catching up :mrgreen: . Long runs are what should be needed by now so there can be comparisons on low mid and high fuel, but at least some running is getting done, so not as bad as I thought
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Big Tea wrote:
11 Mar 2022, 17:25
Xero wrote:
11 Mar 2022, 17:23
Big Tea wrote:
11 Mar 2022, 17:21
What ever the cause of the non running, it is still non running and nothing else is getting tested either. Surely they could cobble a solution, even of it is not legal, to get some other testing done.

Lost running time now can never be caught up.
They are running though. Lando has been testing a brand new floor this afternoon, and just got close to Ferrari's pace on the C3s. They're still ticking away, it's only long runs than need to be cut short.
I am behind on my catching up :mrgreen: . Long runs are what should be needed by now so there can be comparisons on low mid and high fuel, but at least some running is getting done, so not as bad as I thought
Lando has been doing short stints on heavy fuel to protect the brakes. The proper long runs will come tomorrow with the fixed parts arriving, but they have plenty data to compare behaviour on different fuel loads. He's just switched to some lower fuel runs in the past 20 mins. Up to 56 laps with 30 mins left, so not too bad under the circumstances.

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Soft tyre run, aborted the first flying lap and set a PB in sectors 1 and 2 and bailed out in sector 3. Had he continued he would have been around 3rd fastest.

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Lando’s last run in C4’s matched Sainz S1, then half a second down in S2…. He pitted without finishing the lap, but the car isn’t looking bad

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SmallSoldier wrote:
11 Mar 2022, 17:48
Lando’s last run in C4’s matched Sainz S1, then half a second down in S2…. He pitted without finishing the lap, but the car isn’t looking bad
That was a second attempt too, locked up down into turn 1 on his first attempt and aborted. Was about to start another run before that red flag, so we'll have to wait until tomorrow before we get a hint of true performance. Looking decent as you said!

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SmallSoldier wrote:
11 Mar 2022, 17:48
Lando’s last run in C4’s matched Sainz S1, then half a second down in S2…. He pitted without finishing the lap, but the car isn’t looking bad
Being half a second down on softer tires can only be because of one of these two things.

1-The car is struggling on low speed corners
2-The car is heavy on fuel.
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Lachstar wrote:
11 Mar 2022, 17:41
Soft tyre run, aborted the first flying lap and set a PB in sectors 1 and 2 and bailed out in sector 3. Had he continued he would have been around 3rd fastest.
His time of 1m34.609s on the hards is also a pretty decent lap it's the 2nd fastest of the C2 runners and only a few tenths off lecrerc, and its probably reasonable to suggest he's not pushing too hard with the brake issues they're having.
EDIT. They were both on C3
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McFAN wrote:
11 Mar 2022, 17:54
Lachstar wrote:
11 Mar 2022, 17:41
Soft tyre run, aborted the first flying lap and set a PB in sectors 1 and 2 and bailed out in sector 3. Had he continued he would have been around 3rd fastest.
His time of 1m34.609s on the hards is also a pretty decent lap it's the 2nd fastest of the C2 runners and only a few tenths off lecrerc, and its probably reasonable to suggest he's not pushing too hard with the brake issues they're having.
Was that time on C2 or C3? I thought it was on C3

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Emag wrote:
11 Mar 2022, 17:55
McFAN wrote:
11 Mar 2022, 17:54
Lachstar wrote:
11 Mar 2022, 17:41
Soft tyre run, aborted the first flying lap and set a PB in sectors 1 and 2 and bailed out in sector 3. Had he continued he would have been around 3rd fastest.
His time of 1m34.609s on the hards is also a pretty decent lap it's the 2nd fastest of the C2 runners and only a few tenths off lecrerc, and its probably reasonable to suggest he's not pushing too hard with the brake issues they're having.
Was that time on C2 or C3? I thought it was on C3
Both were C3, but Lando's C2 time was also fairly close if I think back.

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I can't say if I am dissapointed or not yet. All I want is to see the team on top being champions again. I'm talking about genuine powerhouse like in the 80s, early and late 90s and a part of 00s. I hate seeing Mclaren not being a contender for so many years.