I’m still in awe of how the car looks:
It's practice of the first race, they are potentially still trying out setups.shamyakovic wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 17:47Russell's car looking much more stable than Lewis, what are they doing with Lewis's car?
Russel is 29.8 and Max 29.3 first sector on their fastest laps.
That means Russel was on par voor s2 en s3? Promising voor the Mercs.shamyakovic wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 17:59Russel is 29.8 and Max 29.3 first sector on their fastest laps.
Was it due to them not running their engine full beans and no drs ?
Yes very very close in s2 and s3Aesop wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 18:04That means Russel was on par voor s2 en s3? Promising voor the Mercs.shamyakovic wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 17:59Russel is 29.8 and Max 29.3 first sector on their fastest laps.
Was it due to them not running their engine full beans and no drs ?
The definetely are. Most peoples did not want to believe it, even as it was obvious in testing already. I even stay with what i said last weekend - they got it completely wrong. Its the whole concept of the car thats wrong. Its a totally new regulary. But Mercedes took a concept that got beaten to death for many years now and went radical with this concept. But usually when such huge technical changes happen, new concepts are the ones to go with. So in my opinion, Mercedes is in serious trouble. But thats F1 - the most sucessfull team usually do not want to take such big risks. And this is the reason why every era of domination ends one day. I even think Mercedes noticed that they are in serious trouble. But there was no time left to change their concept. And thats why they went radical. But thats just my thoughts.Shakeman wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 15:54IMHO, there's no reason why Merc would wait so late to put their full spec car on the track.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 15:33I'm not convinced that this is a new floor. This is the old floor with the edge cut out. I expected to see an edge wing at least. So fingers crossed they come out with the real McCoy in the FP2 or FP3.
I think we have to accept Merc is on the back foot maybe even for the opening few of races.
Pressure on top of the floor can't be much higher than ambient pressure, there's not much engineers can do about it with F1 regulations, even if there were no sidepods at all. On the other hand, pressure bellow is much, much lower than ambient pressure. Even in the previous short ground-effect era of F1 it was always about what's going on bellow.SiLo wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 20:19I wonder if having MORE flow over the top of the floor at higher speed is causing the issue, vs what Ferrari are doing they potentially have less flow as the low pressure area behind the larger sidepod moves farther and farther rearward.
I am remit to say they got a concept wrong on the first day of the first race of the new regs, they still clearly have pace in the car that needs to be found.
can you elaborate further on why a team can get on top of that type of issue?Vanja #66 wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 20:36Maybe they were hurt slightly more than others by simplified suspension rules for 2022... They'll get on top of that very, very soon.SiLo wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 20:19I wonder if having MORE flow over the top of the floor at higher speed is causing the issue, vs what Ferrari are doing they potentially have less flow as the low pressure area behind the larger sidepod moves farther and farther rearward.
I am remit to say they got a concept wrong on the first day of the first race of the new regs, they still clearly have pace in the car that needs to be found.
Would there be any discernible difference in pressure above the diffuser between the Ferrari and Mercedes concept?Vanja #66 wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 20:36Pressure on top of the floor can't be much higher than ambient pressure, there's not much engineers can do about it with F1 regulations, even if there were no sidepods at all. On the other hand, pressure bellow is much, much lower than ambient pressure. Even in the previous short ground-effect era of F1 it was always about what's going on bellow.SiLo wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 20:19I wonder if having MORE flow over the top of the floor at higher speed is causing the issue, vs what Ferrari are doing they potentially have less flow as the low pressure area behind the larger sidepod moves farther and farther rearward.
I am remit to say they got a concept wrong on the first day of the first race of the new regs, they still clearly have pace in the car that needs to be found.
I suspect Merc's current issues are coming mostly from suspension side, trying to run the car as soft as possible without loosing too much in slower corners. Their car seems to be lower than others still. Maybe they were hurt slightly more than others by simplified suspension rules for 2022... They'll get on top of that very, very soon.