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[isullivan]

Not a good start for Red Bull Powertrains.

[Wouter]

Not a good start for Red Bull Powertrains.

This has nothing to do with RBPT.

[yener]

Verstappens engineer told him to give everything, because in this fase of the race there wouldnt be any reliability issues. So probably both Max and Perez changed the car settings to go full power. Or else they wouldnt go off together nearly at the same time

[chrisc90]

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... uel_pumps/

Taken from the Merc PU thread.

[AeroDynamic]

Snap, crackle, pop. That was a brutal finish to the race for Red Bull. Is it to do with the E10 fuel?? They need to sort this out quick if they're gonna fight Ferrari for the title, otherwise the title is going to Maranello quickly.. It will drive their driver mad if the ugly bouncy car takes more results.

[chrisc90]

Snap, crackle, pop. That was a brutal finish to the race for Red Bull. Is it to do with the E10 fuel?? They need to sort this out quick if they're gonna fight Ferrari for the title, otherwise the title is going to Maranello quickly.. It will drive their driver mad if the ugly bouncy car takes more results.

Standardised part across the grid. Unless fuel tank design leave the pump a big higher than others...or teams were running more fuel in order to cool the pump. But from what I read on that link above, the E10 is cracking the resin at the bottom where the electronics are and killing them.

[AtlasZX]

Snap, crackle, pop. That was a brutal finish to the race for Red Bull. Is it to do with the E10 fuel?? They need to sort this out quick if they're gonna fight Ferrari for the title, otherwise the title is going to Maranello quickly.. It will drive their driver mad if the ugly bouncy car takes more results.

Standardised part across the grid. Unless fuel tank design leave the pump a big higher than others...or teams were running more fuel in order to cool the pump. But from what I read on that link above, the E10 is cracking the resin at the bottom where the electronics are and killing them.

happened something similar to a friend of mine with UK E10 fuel in his carburetor car, the E10 broke some plastic or something in the fuel pump, idk if relevant.

[chrisc90]

Snap, crackle, pop. That was a brutal finish to the race for Red Bull. Is it to do with the E10 fuel?? They need to sort this out quick if they're gonna fight Ferrari for the title, otherwise the title is going to Maranello quickly.. It will drive their driver mad if the ugly bouncy car takes more results.

Standardised part across the grid. Unless fuel tank design leave the pump a big higher than others...or teams were running more fuel in order to cool the pump. But from what I read on that link above, the E10 is cracking the resin at the bottom where the electronics are and killing them.

happened something similar to a friend of mine with UK E10 fuel in his carburetor car, the E10 broke some plastic or something in the fuel pump, idk if relevant.

Our pump fuel E10 eats away at the plastic and rubber seals inside.

[Jolle]

Standardised part across the grid. Unless fuel tank design leave the pump a big higher than others...or teams were running more fuel in order to cool the pump. But from what I read on that link above, the E10 is cracking the resin at the bottom where the electronics are and killing them.

happened something similar to a friend of mine with UK E10 fuel in his carburetor car, the E10 broke some plastic or something in the fuel pump, idk if relevant.

Our pump fuel E10 eats away at the plastic and rubber seals inside.

I assume every team has the same pump this year. And RB being the only team with this issue this race, good chance it failed because of an external factor, like putting it in a place where it’s to hot or lots of vibrations.
And E10 has a negative effect on some (older) seals, but not in 1 ½ hours.

[AeroDynamic]

does anyone know what issue max described before he said 'wtf is this' did he say he has no 'rear' ?

@5:00

[ScrewCaptain27]

Fu** E10 fuel, honestly. The pump issues are definitely related. Very similar to what happens with plastic motorcycle fuel tanks in countries like the UK where low-grade E10 fuel is the most common. They should have either gone for a fully ethanol-based fuel as in Indycar, or left it as it was. E10 is rubbish.

[bonjon1979]

Not a good start for Red Bull Powertrains.

This has nothing to do with RBPT.

It depends on how marginal their packaging etc is. The odds of the two fuel pumps that failed occurring in the same team are really pretty long.

[AeroDynamic]

Fu** E10 fuel, honestly. The pump issues are definitely related. Very similar to what happens with plastic motorcycle fuel tanks in countries like the UK where low-grade E10 fuel is the most common. They should have either gone for a fully ethanol-based fuel as in Indycar, or left it as it was. E10 is rubbish.

so Honda and ExxonMobil have not worked this out very well on the face of it. We have to wait for more information. Maybe what Marko said pre season about E10 fuel issues wasn't bulls--t

[bonjon1979]

Or other teams put in more fuel to mitigate against it?

[Dee]

Fu** E10 fuel, honestly. The pump issues are definitely related. Very similar to what happens with plastic motorcycle fuel tanks in countries like the UK where low-grade E10 fuel is the most common. They should have either gone for a fully ethanol-based fuel as in Indycar, or left it as it was. E10 is rubbish.

so Honda and ExxonMobil have not worked this out very well on the face of it. We have to wait for more information. Maybe what Marko said pre season about E10 fuel issues wasn't bulls--t

You haven't been reading the posts about the fuel pump. It's a standardised part made by another company for every team. That is what is failing. Nothing that RB/Honda are doing. They are all using E10 fuel