Yes that sounds much smarter in hindsightholeindalip wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 04:07Wouldn’t you get far better cold side temps using a separate system than using 200 degree water?
I'm not saying renault PU is particularly bad or anything, however telemetry suggests they are clearly behind ferrari and honda and on par with mercedes.
Great effortJuzh wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 00:56I'm not saying renault PU is particularly bad or anything, however telemetry suggests they are clearly behind ferrari and honda and on par with mercedes.
Alonso (blue) vs Leclerc (red) fastest qualifying lap:
https://i.imgur.com/vapCx0d.jpg
Apart from main straight ferrari is faster on any full throttle section, easily evident by time delta increasing on straights. Based on weekend observations I believe ferrari has the most downforce but also quite some drag which they are neutralising with their super fast PU. This correlates well with them being just slightly slower on top end vs alpine, who I would say can't compare in downforce department, but faster on acceleration almost everywhere else.
Alonso (blue) vs Verstappen (dark blue) fastest qualifying lap:
https://i.imgur.com/qlv7TuV.jpg
Red bull ran with trimmed rear wing edges to help their notorious understeer (aka reducing rear downforce for better balance) and as such were the fastest car on top end by some margin this race. They're faster in most full throttle sections vs alpine, but in my opinion behind ferrari on total power by a low, but noticeable amount. I think their low drag approach to this race is making them look maybe a bit better than they'll be on some other tracks, but that remains to be seen (the red bull that is)
Alonso (blue) vs Hamilton (green/cyan) fastest qualifying lap:
https://i.imgur.com/LytLb1h.jpg
Renault and mercedes seem almost completely matched apart from main straight with delta time being almost stagnant on all straights (no one's gaining on anyone). Worrying for renault is that mercedes ran with a very draggy setup (this was mentioned by wolf) and if they sort out their bouncing problems then they might be able to run with reduced wing angles, but that's also another thing that remains to be seen.
All in all my opinion so far is this:
1. ferrari
2. honda
3. renaut = mercedes
You can generate these graphics any many more on website below
https://www.f1-tempo.com/
How do you know the difference between more Power and more DF ? Looks to me like they have more DF. They're later on the brakes, carry more speed in the corners and earilier on the throttle too ... All signs of more vs lacking DF.Juzh wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 00:56I'm not saying renault PU is particularly bad or anything, however telemetry suggests they are clearly behind ferrari and honda and on par with mercedes.
Alonso (blue) vs Leclerc (red) fastest qualifying lap:
https://i.imgur.com/vapCx0d.jpg
Apart from main straight ferrari is faster on any full throttle section, easily evident by time delta increasing on straights. Based on weekend observations I believe ferrari has the most downforce but also quite some drag which they are neutralising with their super fast PU. This correlates well with them being just slightly slower on top end vs alpine, who I would say can't compare in downforce department, but faster on acceleration almost everywhere else.
Alonso (blue) vs Verstappen (dark blue) fastest qualifying lap:
https://i.imgur.com/qlv7TuV.jpg
Red bull ran with trimmed rear wing edges to help their notorious understeer (aka reducing rear downforce for better balance) and as such were the fastest car on top end by some margin this race. They're faster in most full throttle sections vs alpine, but in my opinion behind ferrari on total power by a low, but noticeable amount. I think their low drag approach to this race is making them look maybe a bit better than they'll be on some other tracks, but that remains to be seen (the red bull that is)
Alonso (blue) vs Hamilton (green/cyan) fastest qualifying lap:
https://i.imgur.com/LytLb1h.jpg
Renault and mercedes seem almost completely matched apart from main straight with delta time being almost stagnant on all straights (no one's gaining on anyone). Worrying for renault is that mercedes ran with a very draggy setup (this was mentioned by wolf) and if they sort out their bouncing problems then they might be able to run with reduced wing angles, but that's also another thing that remains to be seen.
All in all my opinion so far is this:
1. ferrari
2. honda
3. renaut = mercedes
You can generate these graphics any many more on website below
https://www.f1-tempo.com/
who has?diffuser wrote: ↑22 Mar 2022, 18:08How do you know the difference between more Power and more DF ? Looks to me like they have more DF. They're later on the brakes, carry more speed in the corners and earilier on the throttle too ... All signs of more vs lacking DF.Juzh wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 00:56I'm not saying renault PU is particularly bad or anything, however telemetry suggests they are clearly behind ferrari and honda and on par with mercedes.
Alonso (blue) vs Leclerc (red) fastest qualifying lap:
https://i.imgur.com/vapCx0d.jpg
Apart from main straight ferrari is faster on any full throttle section, easily evident by time delta increasing on straights. Based on weekend observations I believe ferrari has the most downforce but also quite some drag which they are neutralising with their super fast PU. This correlates well with them being just slightly slower on top end vs alpine, who I would say can't compare in downforce department, but faster on acceleration almost everywhere else.
Alonso (blue) vs Verstappen (dark blue) fastest qualifying lap:
https://i.imgur.com/qlv7TuV.jpg
Red bull ran with trimmed rear wing edges to help their notorious understeer (aka reducing rear downforce for better balance) and as such were the fastest car on top end by some margin this race. They're faster in most full throttle sections vs alpine, but in my opinion behind ferrari on total power by a low, but noticeable amount. I think their low drag approach to this race is making them look maybe a bit better than they'll be on some other tracks, but that remains to be seen (the red bull that is)
Alonso (blue) vs Hamilton (green/cyan) fastest qualifying lap:
https://i.imgur.com/LytLb1h.jpg
Renault and mercedes seem almost completely matched apart from main straight with delta time being almost stagnant on all straights (no one's gaining on anyone). Worrying for renault is that mercedes ran with a very draggy setup (this was mentioned by wolf) and if they sort out their bouncing problems then they might be able to run with reduced wing angles, but that's also another thing that remains to be seen.
All in all my opinion so far is this:
1. ferrari
2. honda
3. renaut = mercedes
You can generate these graphics any many more on website below
https://www.f1-tempo.com/
https://i.imgur.com/PsIhSye.jpeg
FerrariJuzh wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 00:01who has?diffuser wrote: ↑22 Mar 2022, 18:08How do you know the difference between more Power and more DF ? Looks to me like they have more DF. They're later on the brakes, carry more speed in the corners and earilier on the throttle too ... All signs of more vs lacking DF.Juzh wrote: ↑21 Mar 2022, 00:56
I'm not saying renault PU is particularly bad or anything, however telemetry suggests they are clearly behind ferrari and honda and on par with mercedes.
Alonso (blue) vs Leclerc (red) fastest qualifying lap:
https://i.imgur.com/vapCx0d.jpg
Apart from main straight ferrari is faster on any full throttle section, easily evident by time delta increasing on straights. Based on weekend observations I believe ferrari has the most downforce but also quite some drag which they are neutralising with their super fast PU. This correlates well with them being just slightly slower on top end vs alpine, who I would say can't compare in downforce department, but faster on acceleration almost everywhere else.
Alonso (blue) vs Verstappen (dark blue) fastest qualifying lap:
https://i.imgur.com/qlv7TuV.jpg
Red bull ran with trimmed rear wing edges to help their notorious understeer (aka reducing rear downforce for better balance) and as such were the fastest car on top end by some margin this race. They're faster in most full throttle sections vs alpine, but in my opinion behind ferrari on total power by a low, but noticeable amount. I think their low drag approach to this race is making them look maybe a bit better than they'll be on some other tracks, but that remains to be seen (the red bull that is)
Alonso (blue) vs Hamilton (green/cyan) fastest qualifying lap:
https://i.imgur.com/LytLb1h.jpg
Renault and mercedes seem almost completely matched apart from main straight with delta time being almost stagnant on all straights (no one's gaining on anyone). Worrying for renault is that mercedes ran with a very draggy setup (this was mentioned by wolf) and if they sort out their bouncing problems then they might be able to run with reduced wing angles, but that's also another thing that remains to be seen.
All in all my opinion so far is this:
1. ferrari
2. honda
3. renaut = mercedes
You can generate these graphics any many more on website below
https://www.f1-tempo.com/
https://i.imgur.com/PsIhSye.jpeg
That's what I saiddiffuser wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 00:06FerrariJuzh wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 00:01who has?diffuser wrote: ↑22 Mar 2022, 18:08
How do you know the difference between more Power and more DF ? Looks to me like they have more DF. They're later on the brakes, carry more speed in the corners and earilier on the throttle too ... All signs of more vs lacking DF.
https://i.imgur.com/PsIhSye.jpeg
Sorry misread that. Thought you because the PU has more power.