I would like to come at this from a different angle. I too believe that it is not coincidental that greatness follows these guys. I also don't diminish the contributions of the rest of the team. However, did anyone consider that when these individuals join a team they attract other great people as well. Engineers who want to work with them and learn from them. Conversely when they leave many other good people leave as well.Andi76 wrote: ↑19 Mar 2022, 21:24He has! Of course F1 is about teamwork. But if someone really believes that its a conicident that Williams stopped winning championships after Newey left and the team he went to(McLaren) suddenly started winning, he is wrong. The same with Brawn/Byrne. Benetton stopped fighting for titles, but the team they went to started winning titles...i could continue with Honda, Red Bull, Mercedes, but i do not think thats necessary. Of course the hours of work of lesser paygrade workers makes it possible, but its the technical management and leadership that makes the difference. They make all the things go in the right direction. They improve the teamwork, making sure everyone works in one direction, gets heard so that a "real team" develops and they decide where to go etc. If one calls that "developing a cult of personality" - fine. I can live with that. But its a fact that people like Newey, Brawn, Byrne, Costa, Allison(to name just a few) enjoyed such a sucess for a reason. And i do not think its wrong to give credit where credit is due. And i think as its not widely known that Rory Byrne had influence on the F1-75 - its just fair to emphasise that. And also that i do not think its a coincident that Ferrari suddenly is sucessfull again after Rory Byrne was involved in the design of a car...LM10 wrote: ↑19 Mar 2022, 20:00Newey still has a big effect I'm sure. That guy is a portable wind tunnel. He just stands in front of the car and stares at it for minutes, visualizing how the air flows.Big Mangalhit wrote: ↑19 Mar 2022, 19:40
Impressive how people always find a need to develop a cult of personality and try to put all the credit into one big name instead of the generally more efficient teamwork of thousands of names. Even in the history of science we tend to remember only the big names and forget the hours of work of students and other low paygrade workers that make it possible.
Also, the fact that he literally still uses a pen and a paper, might be a kind of an advantage in times of limited CFD/wind tunnel/simulation/whatever times? Just some wild thought.
We see this in other fields as well, a great tennis player in one country attracts other athletes in that country to choose tennis instead of some other sport. A great mathematician appears in one university and suddenly many top mathematicians appear. Talent attracts talent. When that talent leaves others leave as well.
Just my opinion.