Helmut Marko - why does this troublemaker work for RedBull?

[djos]

Helmut Marko stirring up trouble at RedBull:

There was speculation prior to the start of the current F1 campaign – particularly in the light of Webber's leg and shoulder-breaking mountain-biking accident back in November – that Vettel would simply brush his more experienced team-mate aside, and during pre-season testing the Australian generally trailed the man from Heppenheim by around half a second, a gap Red Bull motorsport advisor Helmut Marko described as 'too much'.

"Harmony" is not the word to describe the relationship of Red Bull's two drivers, according to team advisor Helmut Marko.

DM should fire this clown, the last thing RedBull need is this fool stirring up trouble within the team!

[WhiteBlue]

I agree that Marko usually gets it wrong. Unfortunately he is prominent as ex F1 driver in Austria and has been a long time personal friend of Mateschitz. His whole young driver program was mostly a cockup and his advise has led to big tensions between Sauber and Mateschitz in the past.

It is interesting though that Webber uses Vettel's setup. That confirms my view that Vettel is strong on the technical side. One has to consider that he had a lot more testing time in the car and Webber apparently had more injuries than just the leg.

[xpensive]

Wasn't it on Marko's advice Matechitz withdrew from Sauber when they hired Raikkonen?

[djos]

It is interesting though that Webber uses Vettel's setup. That confirms my view that Vettel is strong on the technical side. One has to consider that he had a lot more testing time in the car and Webber apparently had more injuries than just the leg.

But does he? All we have to go on is Marko's word for it and frankly his word does not carry any weight at all imo! He was a Pay Driver for 10 races who never did anything worthwhile on track.

PS. yeah MW conveniently forgot to tell everyone that he broke his shoulder too!

[RacingManiac]

...who also lost one eye in a race....I remember when I was working for a Red Bull sponsored FBMW team that we used to call him cyclop behind his back....

[firefly]

It is interesting though that Webber uses Vettel's setup. That confirms my view that Vettel is strong on the technical side. One has to consider that he had a lot more testing time in the car and Webber apparently had more injuries than just the leg.

But does he?

Yeah i read in an article that he did. It says that he was a bit reluctant to use vettel's setup because he wanted to do things his way. But ended up using vettels anyway. I'll try to dig up the article. An aussie has to support webber, and i am no exception. He's definitely good, but a race win is long overdue. He needs it this year.

[djos]

It is interesting though that Webber uses Vettel's setup. That confirms my view that Vettel is strong on the technical side. One has to consider that he had a lot more testing time in the car and Webber apparently had more injuries than just the leg.

But does he?

Yeah i read in an article that he did. It says that he was a bit reluctant to use vettel's setup because he wanted to do things his way. But ended up using vettels anyway. I'll try to dig up the article. An aussie has to support webber, and i am no exception. He's definitely good, but a race win is long overdue. He needs it this year.

Fair enuf, then again Vettel did most of the early testing of the RB5 so I suppose not that surprising when viewed in that light.

[firefly]

But does he?

Yeah i read in an article that he did. It says that he was a bit reluctant to use vettel's setup because he wanted to do things his way. But ended up using vettels anyway. I'll try to dig up the article. An aussie has to support webber, and i am no exception. He's definitely good, but a race win is long overdue. He needs it this year.

Fair enuf, then again Vettel did most of the early testing of the RB5 so I suppose not that surprising when viewed in that light.

Yep the article points out that, that was also part of the reason.

[ISLAMATRON]

Maybe after years of easily destroying his teammate Webber was setting up the car too comfortably and not on th edge enough. I allways thought it is better to have 2 good drivers driving each other on the team, as long as their driving styles are somewhat similar and the team manager can keep the ego's in check.

[djos]

I Wonder if Helmut would be happy with 1/100th difference?

Practice 2 - Bahrain
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Nico Rosberg Germany Williams-Toyota 1:33.339
2. Fernando Alonso Spain Renault 1:33.530
3. Jarno Trulli Italy Toyota 1:33.616
4. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:33.661
5. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:33.676

[Giblet]

Weber isn't a driver who really complains about a car not "not suiting his driving style", I have always figured he was smart enough to just figure out the car he has, and set it up best to go fast, even if it requires different lines.

I figure he's also smart enough to realize that Vettel is a usable talent in the team, and if they can use the same setup it is far easier on the team during this season and the designer next season.

[djos]

Weber isn't a driver who really complains about a car not "not suiting his driving style", I have always figured he was smart enough to just figure out the car he has, and set it up best to go fast, even if it requires different lines.

I figure he's also smart enough to realize that Vettel is a usable talent in the team, and if they can use the same setup it is far easier on the team during this season and the designer next season.

Agreed, imo the 1/100th of a difference in times only serves to prove that Webber and Vettel are working well together to get the most out of the car.