Ferrari F1-75

[Andi76]

If only or just they can reduce or fix this (porpoising) problem, well ... it will get interesting.

However, the car is fast, on every track and in every condition.

Nice project.

The promptness and accuracy of the developments remain to be seen.

Nice championship, however.

Much more interesting than those of the last seven years.

2017 and 2018 where also of interest at this stage of the season.

I think whats extremely intetesting this year is that two cars are extremely close together but they achieve this in totally different ways. Ferrari is obviously going the "downforce" way, while Red Bull has opted for the "high-speed" way. This is very interesting to watch, especially as both are looking for the best trade off and compromise. In FP2 Ferrari already was closer to Red Bull in relation to Top-Speeds.

[LostInTranslation]

If only or just they can reduce or fix this (porpoising) problem, well ... it will get interesting.

However, the car is fast, on every track and in every condition.

Nice project.

The promptness and accuracy of the developments remain to be seen.

Nice championship, however.

Much more interesting than those of the last seven years.

2017 and 2018 where also of interest at this stage of the season.

Yes. Unfortunately in those years they went in another direction. But, you know what, everyone enjoys beating Ferrari. If there were no Ferrari, there would be no taste. For them. They enjoy.

[LostInTranslation]

If only or just they can reduce or fix this (porpoising) problem, well ... it will get interesting.

However, the car is fast, on every track and in every condition.

Nice project.

The promptness and accuracy of the developments remain to be seen.

Nice championship, however.

Much more interesting than those of the last seven years.

2017 and 2018 where also of interest at this stage of the season.

I think whats extremely intetesting this year is that two cars are extremely close together but they achieve this in totally different ways. Ferrari is obviously going the "downforce" way, while Red Bull has opted for the "high-speed" way. This is very interesting to watch, especially as both are looking for the best trade off and compromise. In FP2 Ferrari already was closer to Red Bull in relation to Top-Speeds.

I believe, but maybe I'm wrong, that FER has opted for better tire handling at the expense of straight-line speed. The engine is powerful. I think it has not yet reached its maximum

[Xyz22]

Interesting theory by Federico Albano:

We can see how in the first part of the straight Verstappen gains 65 thousandths on Leclerc, mainly due to turn 6, taken more slowly by the Monegasque, with a performance that then flattens out at 291 km/h. As soon as the DRS opens, the two corners widen out, with an 8 km/h advantage for Verstappen before turn 9. As soon as the DRS opens, however, the two corners widen, with Verstappen gaining an advantage of 8 km/h before the braking at turn 9, with a gain of 131 thousandths for the Dutchman in this section alone. This tells us some interesting things. The first is that there is obviously higher drag from the bottom and body of the car for the Ferrari, which suddenly emerges as soon as the height given by the closed rear wing is reduced. On the other hand, it is natural to think that the RB18 has the opposite situation, i.e. a better aerodynamic efficiency of the car body, but a worse efficiency of the rear wing, which, when closed and coupled with the bottom, produces a level of resistance comparable to that of the F1-75 while not providing the same vertical load. This could be one of the reasons why the Austrian team insists on a more unloaded set-up, not only to maximize efficiency, a characteristic of their car body, but also because they are not finding the same level of efficiency in the rear wing. This is obviously just a hypothesis, but it is what the data would seem to suggest.

https://www.formulapassion.it/opinioni/ ... 12309.html

[Drift4794]

Duchessa reports:

Ferrari were very active today, testing a new underbody/diffuser and wing with Charles Leclerc, as reported by Formu1a.uno and confirmed a few hours ago by Mattia Binotto himself at SkySports UK. The most important change concerns the diffuser, which has new features in the central part, however, other changes are present (although not visible to the outside eye) in the lower part of the bottom. The underbody was only used in FP1 by Charles Leclerc to collect data of fundamental importance in a season of contingent updates due to the budget cap. As anticipated in recent hours, its use was important to validate the improvements to the solution seen in the wind tunnel and CFD. From the initial information gathered, Ferrari are not entirely happy with the update.

Link: https://www.formu1a.uno/australia-anali ... l-insegue/

[tpe]

oups

[godlameroso]

Bouncing is 6ish Hz.

[GrrG]

Can't see that well what they did on the diffuser side.
But the Gurney flap on the underside of the RW is quite visible. Usually, that flap is placed on the top side to increase the downforce. I wonder if they placed it on the underside to decrease downforce (and reduce drag) given that they seem to not have a lower downforce RW.

Yes, this seems like the only explanation to me as well. I'm not sure it's anything more than a test, this looks very wrong and it messed up the flow a lot. This looks like Bahrain RW, they also have the one from Jeddah which they used first. Maybe they'd prefer something in between, so they experiment like this. This tells you more about confidence level than anything else - spending time and laps to test a completely crazy solution.

It is written in this article

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... content=it

[Vanja #66]

It is written in this article

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... content=it

Only a single paragraph, if they read the forum they could have written at least three

[LM10]

Duchessa reports:

Ferrari were very active today, testing a new underbody/diffuser and wing with Charles Leclerc, as reported by Formu1a.uno and confirmed a few hours ago by Mattia Binotto himself at SkySports UK. The most important change concerns the diffuser, which has new features in the central part, however, other changes are present (although not visible to the outside eye) in the lower part of the bottom. The underbody was only used in FP1 by Charles Leclerc to collect data of fundamental importance in a season of contingent updates due to the budget cap. As anticipated in recent hours, its use was important to validate the improvements to the solution seen in the wind tunnel and CFD. From the initial information gathered, Ferrari are not entirely happy with the update.

Link: https://www.formu1a.uno/australia-anali ... l-insegue/

Motorsport Italy reports that the new diffuser on the F1-75 was just an experiment. Charles only tested it in FP1. This new diffuser was never planned to be used in Australia. It has been tested to collect data for the first upgrade package.

#tami.

So I would not read much into it. It just was a part of the upgrade package which seems to be planned for Spain (or maybe Imola, if they complete the other parts in time).
I don't think we would have been able to see any difference as outstanders. The performance of the diffuser can only be evaluated by Ferrari themselves as it is a part of a future package. Not surprising, if the car behaved better with the old diffuser and the rest of the car optimized for it.

[LM10]

Testing a front wing and floor does seem reasonable. It does not necessarily mean that they will be using them in Australia. They may be looking ahead and testing it for different types of tracks or to validate assumptions. They may be experimenting to see if the bouncing can be reduced or eliminated.

Since they suggest that they have a stable car for this race and they are not permitted track time elsewhere, it seems that this is a cost effective, efficient, and perhaps the only way to validate the direction that they plan to move towards.

Yeah, I also assume that they might be testing some things for future (maybe not even directly related to the upgrades coming in Imola and Spain).

Was just thinking of the budget cap and how building parts only to test them would not be as easy as in the past. That’s why teams with good correlation will have an advantage because they can be sure that the performance they’re seeing on data will be transferred to on-track too. And Ferrari have good correlation, unlike in past.

Last season Ferrari showed up at an early GP with an upgraded floor(the ever popular Z floor) only available for one car and removed it for the race.
The next race they had this floor for both cars and it stayed.

This might be a similar case(the first available floor from the batch of updates), but i wonder if they'll race it this time(i was in favor of doing it last year already).
We know Red Bull won't hesitate to run Verstappen and Perez in different spec cars.

Sainz car looked "standard" through the pitlane, let's see Charles...

As I posted above, apparently Ferrari tested a diffuser which is going to be a part of the upgrade package they will bring to Spain or maybe even Imola. They tested it only on Leclerc's car for FP1. So it was not even planned as a true upgrade for this race, only for experimenting reasons.

[wowgr8]

The Ferrari seems to have a very efficient rear wing that penalises them when DRS is open because they dump less drag

[wesley123]

Could very well be deployment. It becomes increasingly less efficient to deploy ERS at higher speeds, and especially when you can use DRS to overcome this difference, it'll probably gain more if you can deploy more accelerating, which seems to be the case.

Verstappen has a higher speed at many points where it is measured, but still has a slower laptime. Leclerc has a significant amount of speed difference at the slower parts, which is where you'll accelerate. So even though top speed might be lower, Leclerc still drags this initial gain the whole way through the straight.

[AR3-GP]

The Ferrari seems to have a very efficient rear wing that penalises them when DRS is open because they dump less drag
https://i.imgur.com/Wl897KF.jpg

Why do you interpret this as better RW efficiency? In my opinion, it's the power unit differences. The wing efficiency has a weaker effect at 200km/h than it does at 300km/h

[vorticism]

The disparity may simply indicate that the Ferrari has higher overall drag, which DRS wouldn't influence.