dialtone wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022, 19:30
basti313 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022, 18:57
dialtone wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022, 18:34
Here's what you can do: add more downforce to the front wing like Ferrari did on Saturday.
I do not have an F1 car, sorry.
The graining was introduced by a bit higher track temp and got everyone by surprise. I do not think Ferrari was planning for this, they just did not have to push.
I think the solution would rather be a good tire. This stupid graining once the temps change a bit is nothing you see on any other good racing tire.
Most certainly not accurate again...
https://www.formu1a.uno/ferrari-ha-alza ... e-a-imola/
Ferrari started with a setup that was going to protect primarily the rear tyres, then long runs in FP2 showed a possibility for graining in the front, more apparent on the mediums. To handle this, between friday and saturday they decided 2 fundamental things. The first: increase front downforce to limit graining. They chose the higher load front wing of the 2 they brought in Australia, the one with the top flap straight rather than slightly cut. Albert park didn't just change layout but also tarmac; Pirelli itself, via Mario Isola, warned since friday that sliding, even with increase in grip, was possibly going to continue during the race since the track wasn't treated with high pressure wash to eliminate excess bitumen. [...] The second a 5 HP increase in the engine to counter the added drag compared to RedBull.
So everyone knew, they bet they could get away with it like in Jeddah, but they did not get away with it.
On top of it worth mentioning that RedBull spent the first 20 minutes of FP2 in box trying to fix their setup after FP1 showed significant balance problems, ultimately it meant that Ferrari was able to do 18 laps on Mediums in FP2, while RedBull did only 14 and maybe this was enough to discover the graining on the Ferrari side.
RedBull has a general issue on the front with understeer.
What you post here does not contradict to what I said and even if Ferrari would have gone with the other wing, they would have won the race in the end.
The issue is simply, that the best car can now handle the tire. A bit of a different situation to the time where Merc was dominant where even the tire was developed to help them once they could not handle it constantly.
We wanted to have close racing. Now we have one team that can handle a delicate tire. Especially on the Medium we could have at least a little bit of pressure on the Ferrari without the graining. On the hard they were untouchable, no blame here. We have a setup where the rules would give us a very low split in the field, now a little bit of too much understeer and you a 7 tenth away per lap...this is bull$hit.
Scorpaguy wrote: ↑12 Apr 2022, 04:20
Back when LMP1 was relevant/significant...I do not recall the various teams having such extreme "switch-on/out-of-temp window" issues on their Michelins (sure maybe short lived pit-out temps). Those cars had a bit of aero...
...dare I say maybe 1 good (well known) compound would be sufficient. Oh...and ditch the blankets.
Yes, I do not see that either. You can also take the usual GP3 series, they go with one tire over 10 different cars with different concepts from freezing cold to burning hot track temps combined with no blankets.
I think this is a quality issue and from "no blankets" Pirelli is soooo far away...
I think the point of having 4 usable compounds is nothing good as well, it is a sign that the tire is too fragile in the usage.