McLaren F1 successor

[gruntguru]

Murray is quite vocal about having minimal anything on the car other than three pedals and the minimum stuff required by law. He will see the need to learn to do high-quality heel and toe changes as been part of the ownership experience, not a barrier to the experience. This is a drivers car. You have to drive it. That was central to the F1 and it's central to the T.50. That's Murray's mindset.

So handy to have an expert on the workings of Gordon Murray's brain here on the forum.

If Dario Franchiti can't perfectly rev-match it on downshifts, it is likely Gordon Murray (who happens to care a lot about the driving experience for his customeres - even though there are only 100 of them) would see fit to provide some help with rev-matching the most responsive engine ever put in a road car. So easy to add the means for those who want to switch it off and prove they are more skilful than one of the greats of motor racing.

There's no need to be insulting.

Murray was vocal about his dislike of electronics in sports cars. That's well known by those who have followed even a little bit of the story of the F1.

Insulting? What did you mean by this?

He will see . .

[Morteza]

[RZS10]

The fan tech doesn't seem to be on the car yet? When they're on the road you'd expect at least some reflections or sth going on where the fan would sit/spin but it looks completely empty ... at least to my eye

[Pat Pending]

The fan tech doesn't seem to be on the car yet? When they're on the road you'd expect at least some reflections or sth going on where the fan would sit/spin but it looks completely empty ... at least to my eye

Quiet probably not. Each XP will represent a different development stage and have a different purpose. I think in one of the earlier episodes Dario said one was a basic mechanical 'mule' simply to test the drivetrain and one was just used for chassis evaluation/setting.

I know some will violently disagree, but to me it's not a particularly good looking car. All too rounded for my tastes.

And I wouldn't like to be a passenger for anything other than short trips - looks a bit cramped.

[gruntguru]

I volunteer to be a passenger for any trip, any length.

[Cold Fussion]

[Morteza]

[Morteza]

[gruntguru]

Great sound! Not sure if that was full noise at any point - perhaps around 3:55 or near the very end of the video.

[vorticism]

Very smooth sound. Given all of the aesthetics curation the FIA takes upon themselves these days: why are spectators not listening to V12s like this? This with some tune could make enough power for a lightened modern F1 car. Not sure when was the last time an F1 car displaced 4 L though!

In a T.33 interview Murray mentioned that GMA was considering entering a T50 in the hypercar class, but the ACO decided to go in a more LMP type direction by including the LMPH class along with the hypercars, so they opted out. Missed opportunity to not have the T50 and Valkyrie running at Le Mans. Those cars are more in the spirit of classic prototype racers as the works of an engineering artisan. Back when intra class competitors had more differentiation.

[Cold Fussion]

Missed opportunity to not have the T50 and Valkyrie running at Le Mans.

Missed opportunity is a charitable way of describing the current sports cars rules.

[J.A.W.]

Missed opportunity to not have the T50 and Valkyrie running at Le Mans.

Missed opportunity is a charitable way of describing the current sports cars rules.

For sure, as fans we'd surely like to watch them compete, & if the makers are up for it,
what the hell... Didn't any of the regulators watch the fairly recent 'Hollywood' movies
about classic championship campaign striving, like Hunt/Lauda & Ford versus Ferrari?

[Morteza]

[Andres125sx]

https://youtu.be/t9xbJtEmb_o

OMG that hurts!

Great video

[Just_a_fan]

GMA T50 in a tunnel. Along with some McLaren F1s too. The F1 is one of the best sounding road car engines there is, but the wail from the T50 is something else.