Mercedes W13

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djones
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Track temp seems higher than in FP3 and that was already a big problem for them. I can't see this going well at all.

f1jcw
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Need to make up they’re mind if Hot temperatures help or hinder. Yesterday it was hot temperatures helped.

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f1jcw wrote:
07 May 2022, 22:44
Need to make up they’re mind if Hot temperatures help or hinder. Yesterday it was hot temperatures helped.
FP2 yesterday was cooler than FP1 and FP3 and Q now. But the general thing is that the operating window is small. Slightly too cold and it's bad, slightly too hot and it's bad.

GrizzleBoy
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Looks like George possibly put a little more downforce on the car as he was bouncing wayyy more than Lewis, even in some corners it seems that made the car lose traction.

AA_2019
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Where did Friday’s pace go?
One day AI might be able to fix the W13 zero pod concept !

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AA_2019 wrote:
07 May 2022, 23:06
Where did Friday’s pace go?
sliding, too hot and they're cooking tyres which probably are also too soft and make it easier to trigger porpoising too.

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chrisc90 wrote:
07 May 2022, 21:22
That'll get stopped in no time i'd imagine. Surprised they get away with it.
There's no deflection test for the front wing flaps AFAIK, it's all fair game there. :)

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GrizzleBoy wrote:
07 May 2022, 22:59
Looks like George possibly put a little more downforce on the car as he was bouncing wayyy more than Lewis, even in some corners it seems that made the car lose traction.
I thought it was more downforce > more bouncing

Mchamilton
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Literally every car on the track has similar deflection on the front wing flaps.

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Mchamilton wrote:
07 May 2022, 23:42
Literally every car on the track has similar deflection on the front wing flaps.
It would be interesting to see a comparison. To me it looks like this new Mercedes wing flexes way more than others. But if it passed the test, it is good. I wonder if others will try to copy this concept.

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matteosc wrote:
08 May 2022, 00:58
Mchamilton wrote:
07 May 2022, 23:42
Literally every car on the track has similar deflection on the front wing flaps.
It would be interesting to see a comparison. To me it looks like this new Mercedes wing flexes way more than others. But if it passed the test, it is good. I wonder if others will try to copy this concept.
It ismt new though its been like this simce they launched the car, it ismt part of the wing upgrade.

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GrizzleBoy wrote:
08 May 2022, 01:20
matteosc wrote:
08 May 2022, 00:58
Mchamilton wrote:
07 May 2022, 23:42


Literally every car on the track has similar deflection on the front wing flaps.
It would be interesting to see a comparison. To me it looks like this new Mercedes wing flexes way more than others. But if it passed the test, it is good. I wonder if others will try to copy this concept.
It ismt new though its been like this simce they launched the car, it ismt part of the wing upgrade.
Given I have no opinion on the issue. It was the same with Ferrari in Australia and they had the team reinforce the wing and had Sainz go around a bunch of laps with laser measurement for the front wing flexing.


AA_2019
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Just watched Toto’s post qualy interview with Ted Kravitz, he basically confirms it is the floor
One day AI might be able to fix the W13 zero pod concept !

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AA_2019 wrote:
07 May 2022, 00:41
Can we conclude the new front wing has moved Merc forward a good step.

Yes the low DF rear wing helps but other teams have also adopted the same so it rather helped them not go backwards.

Purpoising still a problem. I’m so jealous of the RB which had virtually no purpoising even in FP2

PS anyone got a link to speed trap info?
One session (FP2) does not a season make!
Still 8 tenths behind! :cry:
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chrisc90 wrote:
07 May 2022, 21:22
That'll get stopped in no time i'd imagine. Surprised they get away with it.
The Ferrari does that too, people just aren't looking!
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