As explained those are pointless graphs that can not be taken at face value without a lot of extra context involved. And 30 kmh overspeed with drs and slipstream is nothing unheard of, just remember verstappen's 50 kmh overspeed vs leclerc in bahrain. Sometimes telemetry traces are just not needed to see a problem that's otherwise confirmed by multiple sources such as interviews, mini-sector time deltas and plain old onboard footage.Curbstone wrote: ↑09 May 2022, 11:16Oh please, he has provided several graphs, so there's no way he is cherry picking. He even provided a comparison between lap 11 and 54 (similar condition, less fuel load). He has put in a lot more effort in his analysis than just looking at sector times.Wouter wrote: ↑09 May 2022, 10:20.dialtone wrote: ↑09 May 2022, 00:54
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No way .
Lap 54, PER v VER:
https://i.imgur.com/QlpY3OL.jpeg
No way he was 25bhp under VER with those speeds.
It is for me also hard to read your cherry picked graphs. That one trace doesn't prove anything.
Normally with fresh Medium tires Perez would be much quicker than Sainz on his old Hards, but he wasn't!
https://en.mclarenf-1.com/2022/gp/s8993 ... s/785-825/
simply overheating and when it cooled off it went back to normal.Yeh, sure. You are right.Yeah man, I think Horner is making it all up.
This is so wrong! completely BS.
The statement 'Normally with fresh Medium tires Perez would be much quicker than Sainz on his old Hards, but he wasn't! ' is rather simplistic.
Maybe you don't understand the graphs, and don't like his conclusion, but that doesn't mean it is all just BS.
Perez' speed seemed normal in all laps after the safety car, and I don't understand how anyone can get a 30 km/h overspeed with a 30hp powerdeficit. It all just looks a bit strange to me.
More from perez:
https://racingnews365.com/perez-concern ... -different
I also checked perez' onboard and again it's easy to see he can't make any ground on sainz even with better exits out of T7-8 and T16. Sainz just drives away from him, then it takes perez until drs to start making some headway, but by that point it's way too late for any move. He's talking to his engineer multiple times about simply having not enough power to make a move. Those are things that are much more revealing about this situation as opposed to some telemetry graphs (in this particular case anyway)."I think it was a sensor issue that we had," Perez told media, including RacingNews365.com.
"Throughout the race, it was working well, but then when we had the sensor issue, we lost like seven seconds in two laps, and then it was just a poor race."
When asked if the car had come back to him, Perez added: "No, it was never the same. I was losing too much time.
"I was like 10kph down on the straights."
On lap 8 Verstappen was able to reduce gap to Leclerc from 9 tenths down to 4.5 tenths from T16 to T17 with DRS. 9 tenths is quite a substantial gap, you get very little slipstream effect early on on the straight, so majority of those gains are made on second part of straight if you are fast enough. Still, it was enough to gain almost half a second and put leclerc out of shape in T17.
Contrast to Perez on lap 49 on fresh mediums. Perez is just 0.6s behind Sanz and gets a much better exit compared to him out of T16 and gains half a tenth immediately after the corner (gap down to 0.55s), but then sainz just powers away and before Perez hits drs Sainz is already too far and still pulling away. At the end of straight Perez was able to gain just 3 tenths despite attacking from a closer position than verstappen and even having much better exit that the car ahead of him (new tyres).
This is how much context you need to properly evaluate a power loss of 20kw and how it can subtly ruin someone's race, simply printing out some plots and traces will do you no good.