McLaren MCL36

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should do until there's proper pics

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Looks interesting!
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The widest part of the sidepod appears further back now, but is it slimmer at its widest point than before?
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diffuser wrote:
07 May 2022, 18:57
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07 May 2022, 10:36
Still think these air to air rads in the side pod are unnecessarily large. They clearly are happy with the trade off and perhaps having too large an area of the floor unsupported increases risk of porpoising. But it strikes me they can increase/energise the flow towards the beam wing/coke bottle area by having a different rad/packaging to improve the sculpting of the side pod towards the back of the rad
No sure what relevance that has, since the team with biggest sidepods destroys everybody else. The only team that has come close to them is RBR and there sidepods are still HUGE in comparison to McLaren.
Seems they have started sculpting the back end of the sidepod to improve the flow towards the beam wing/coke bottle area

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seem a bit interim between their own and rb, ren etc. They have more of a ramp to help guide the air down the sidepod and the air going around the sidepod is now guided by a tunnel, before it was just one big "open" area like merc. And looking at both rb, renault, ferrari etc, theyre all using the sidepod to guide the air, so seem the right way forward

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RZS10 wrote:
20 May 2022, 14:38
https://i.imgur.com/R1xk1KC.png
should do until there's proper pics
Thanks!

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I like the new form better, I hope it is just as effective.
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f1rules wrote:
20 May 2022, 14:49
seem a bit interim between their own and rb, ren etc. They have more of a ramp to help guide the air down the sidepod and the air going around the sidepod is now guided by a tunnel, before it was just one big "open" area like merc. And looking at both rb, renault, ferrari etc, theyre all using the sidepod to guide the air, so seem the right way forward

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Nice little tweak! =D> I thought it looked different on TV.

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4th in sec3, could have been worse i quess
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101FlyingDutchman wrote:
20 May 2022, 14:48
diffuser wrote:
07 May 2022, 18:57
101FlyingDutchman wrote:
07 May 2022, 10:36
Still think these air to air rads in the side pod are unnecessarily large. They clearly are happy with the trade off and perhaps having too large an area of the floor unsupported increases risk of porpoising. But it strikes me they can increase/energise the flow towards the beam wing/coke bottle area by having a different rad/packaging to improve the sculpting of the side pod towards the back of the rad
No sure what relevance that has, since the team with biggest sidepods destroys everybody else. The only team that has come close to them is RBR and there sidepods are still HUGE in comparison to McLaren.
Seems they have started sculpting the back end of the sidepod to improve the flow towards the beam wing/coke bottle area
From what I've read, the problem with the narrow bod or a design with a large exposed floor is porposing. You can't keep the floor from flexing and being sucked down too low in certain areas and stalling. While with large sidepods you can have as many stays under the sidepods as you need.

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diffuser wrote:
20 May 2022, 20:20
101FlyingDutchman wrote:
20 May 2022, 14:48
diffuser wrote:
07 May 2022, 18:57


No sure what relevance that has, since the team with biggest sidepods destroys everybody else. The only team that has come close to them is RBR and there sidepods are still HUGE in comparison to McLaren.
Seems they have started sculpting the back end of the sidepod to improve the flow towards the beam wing/coke bottle area
From what I've read, the problem with the narrow bod or a design with a large exposed floor is porposing. You can't keep the floor from flexing and being sucked down too low in certain areas and stalling. While with large sidepods you can have as many stays under the sidepods as you need.
McLaren wasn’t really suffering from Porpoising from with a narrow sidepods… The larger (wider) sidepods seem to help with front tire wake management and reduce drag generated by the rear tires

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SmallSoldier wrote:
20 May 2022, 21:30
diffuser wrote:
20 May 2022, 20:20
101FlyingDutchman wrote:
20 May 2022, 14:48


Seems they have started sculpting the back end of the sidepod to improve the flow towards the beam wing/coke bottle area
From what I've read, the problem with the narrow bod or a design with a large exposed floor is porposing. You can't keep the floor from flexing and being sucked down too low in certain areas and stalling. While with large sidepods you can have as many stays under the sidepods as you need.
McLaren wasn’t really suffering from Porpoising from with a narrow sidepods… The larger (wider) sidepods seem to help with front tire wake management and reduce drag generated by the rear tires
Well, there is that. The wider sidepods get used to control the airflow to the rear.

We're they not having porpoising cause their ride height was higher that it should have been and sacrificing DF? That is the questions.

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Not huge differences...