Don't worry, Russell will do that at some point too.PlatinumZealot wrote:Yes very exciting but "do they even give points for fifth place?" A win on merit this year is what really matters.
Yeah i think so to. The kid is flying which is logical if you consider what he was driving the previous seasons.
May be you should ask Hamilton! 2008 Brazil comes to mind.PlatinumZealot wrote: β30 May 2022, 04:27Yes very exciting but "do they even give points for fifth place?" A win on merit this year is what really matters.
Baku is another street circuit with bumpy, smooth surface and corner types more similar to Monaco. Other than the long straights I don't see this favouring the W13 particularly
I'm more optimistic. Monaco was always going to be difficult and not really reflective of the W13, which Merc admit is not optimised for slower corners.
Hey, we're talking about Russell finishing 5th, not Hamilton, so there's a difference. Seems like Russell finishing 5th is not that important or interesting for some.silver wrote:May be you should ask Hamilton! 2008 Brazil comes to mind.PlatinumZealot wrote: β30 May 2022, 04:27Yes very exciting but "do they even give points for fifth place?" A win on merit this year is what really matters.
I expect here we will find out if they really have solved the bouncing issue with the top speeds they will reach.
Well, someone was clearly lying. This is what Toto said after Monaco.zibby43 wrote: β27 May 2022, 07:18Iβm not the one with the jokes.dialtone wrote: β26 May 2022, 07:14Rather than cracking up a joke, could you help instead understand how they got to being 0.1s behind a car that gave them 20 seconds in 20 laps?zibby43 wrote: β26 May 2022, 07:10Yes, Mercedes, the team that has for years underplayed their pace/performance at all costs, is suddenly shifting course and overstating their performance.
All while explicitly mentioning that the positive pace was limited to one race thus far, so they have to be guarded.
Some of y'all crack me up.
Let me ask you a question: Do you believe that Shovlin and Vowles are either a) lying or b) have worse data and less understanding of it than you?
Iβll hang up and listen.
Team boss Toto Wolff says that while the W13 is showing some improvement, he thinks it is far from ideal that they still appear to be no closer in pace terms to the front.
"I think we are the third team," he said. "We're not second and we're not fourth. We have two extremely strong drivers, but it is a huge annoyance for all of us that that the gap is about the same.
"If you're looking at it optimistically, it's five tenths. If you're looking at it pessimistically, it's more than eight tenths. And that is clearly for all of us at Mercedes not acceptable."
Everything is driver vs driver to you guys huh?
How do you think the team is going to get back to winning ways? The team of engineers come up with some ideas to improve the performance of the car and they put different things on different cars. One driver is getting the results that would provide the verification necessary for development and the other one is simply complaining about everything under the sun and not going out there trying to get the best out of the settings on the car. Clearly, engineers aren't getting what they want from one car. How is that going to help getting back to winning ways?PlatinumZealot wrote: β30 May 2022, 19:27Everything is driver vs driver to you guys huh?
I'm talking about the team getting back to winning ways! Driver support or driver Vs driver threads are not really allowed on the forum.
Maybe a disagreement where to take new engines and how hard to run them? Ham taking the long view of having engines when the car is improved, and Rus taking the points now.chrisc90 wrote: β30 May 2022, 19:50Im a little unsure how there can still be a deficit between the two drivers. Surely the setups arent going to be that much different come qualifying after 7 races in. I simply cant see why the team would run 2 different cars that are miles off the pace of each other.
Something isnt adding up here.