Ferrari F1-75

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zokipirlo wrote:
26 Jun 2022, 21:44
carisi2k wrote:
26 Jun 2022, 11:03
But will Ferrari lose there cornering prowess going to this rear wing. In Canada Charles lack traction out of the corners with this lower downforce rear wing.
Maybe with new floor they will increase df with lower ride height and so they can decrease df from rear wing.
They said the traction issue was ERS related, nothing to do with the rear wing. Supposedly they changed the mapping for max end of straight speed - rather than earlier in the acceleration phase coming out of corners:

https://www.ruetir.com/2022/06/22/f1-fe ... r-the-ers/

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f1316 wrote:
27 Jun 2022, 17:45
zokipirlo wrote:
26 Jun 2022, 21:44
carisi2k wrote:
26 Jun 2022, 11:03
But will Ferrari lose there cornering prowess going to this rear wing. In Canada Charles lack traction out of the corners with this lower downforce rear wing.
Maybe with new floor they will increase df with lower ride height and so they can decrease df from rear wing.
They said the traction issue was ERS related, nothing to do with the rear wing. Supposedly they changed the mapping for max end of straight speed - rather than earlier in the acceleration phase coming out of corners:

https://www.ruetir.com/2022/06/22/f1-fe ... r-the-ers/
Interesting. So what portion of the top speed improvements comes from managing the deployment strategy, compared with the new low drag rear wing?
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AR3-GP wrote:
27 Jun 2022, 18:57
f1316 wrote:
27 Jun 2022, 17:45
zokipirlo wrote:
26 Jun 2022, 21:44

Maybe with new floor they will increase df with lower ride height and so they can decrease df from rear wing.
They said the traction issue was ERS related, nothing to do with the rear wing. Supposedly they changed the mapping for max end of straight speed - rather than earlier in the acceleration phase coming out of corners:

https://www.ruetir.com/2022/06/22/f1-fe ... r-the-ers/
Interesting. So what portion of the top speed improvements comes from managing the deployment strategy, compared with the new low drag rear wing?
7kph with DRS open according to Duchessa.

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AR3-GP wrote:
27 Jun 2022, 18:57
f1316 wrote:
27 Jun 2022, 17:45
zokipirlo wrote:
26 Jun 2022, 21:44

Maybe with new floor they will increase df with lower ride height and so they can decrease df from rear wing.
They said the traction issue was ERS related, nothing to do with the rear wing. Supposedly they changed the mapping for max end of straight speed - rather than earlier in the acceleration phase coming out of corners:

https://www.ruetir.com/2022/06/22/f1-fe ... r-the-ers/
Interesting. So what portion of the top speed improvements comes from managing the deployment strategy, compared with the new low drag rear wing?
No one outside the team would have any idea about that

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Good video about the Upgrades Ferrari(and RBR and Mercedes)are introducing at Silverstone:


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New wing mirror fins

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Sidepod inlet looks the same.

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comparison

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Andi76 wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 07:34
Good video about the Upgrades Ferrari(and RBR and Mercedes)are introducing at Silverstone:

Where are all these claims coming from? This is a whole lot of very specific claims that are seemingly coming from nowhere and not reported by any reputable sources that I can tell. Ferrari will have a whole new gearbox, for example? Or Ferrari are saying that Red Bull are gonna gain 3 tenths a lap through more lightening(wasn't RB already supposed to be near the weight limit finally?). No mention of any sources for any of these things. Never even heard of this Youtube channel before.

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I wait to see the new front wing, their weak point, I think.

With which you can gain a few tenths in terms of speed on the straight.

Without squeezing the Power Unit.

Without sacrificing grip, in medium and slow corners.

Too easy?

It's so easy that I fear they will get there at the end of the season when the championship is over.

And it was just something simply outside observers realized from the start.

From the get going.

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Weren't Ferrari going to introduce slimmer sidepods in this race? These mirror tweaks are not going to bring them back into contention i fear.

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Seanspeed wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 15:13
Andi76 wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 07:34
Good video about the Upgrades Ferrari(and RBR and Mercedes)are introducing at Silverstone:

Where are all these claims coming from? This is a whole lot of very specific claims that are seemingly coming from nowhere and not reported by any reputable sources that I can tell. Ferrari will have a whole new gearbox, for example? Or Ferrari are saying that Red Bull are gonna gain 3 tenths a lap through more lightening(wasn't RB already supposed to be near the weight limit finally?). No mention of any sources for any of these things. Never even heard of this Youtube channel before.
This is a well known channel. And even scuderiafans publish the informations and their video. So there seem to be some truth in it. Anyway - you probably got a lot of things wrong. There is no word of Ferrari bringing a whole new gearbox...actually they were explaining what Ferraris changes to the gearbox for 2022.

Anyway - here the link where scuderiafans published it:

https://scuderiafans.com/the-updates-an ... ritish-gp/

falonso81 wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 17:54
Weren't Ferrari going to introduce slimmer sidepods in this race? These mirror tweaks are not going to bring them back into contention i fear.


There is no need for them to be brought back to contention. They have the fastest car even in race pace since Barcelona. And Ferrari never wanted to introduce slimmer sidepods(the was only the word of very minor tweaks, as their sidepods work very well). At least i have never heard anything like that.
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Seanspeed wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 15:13
Andi76 wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 07:34
Good video about the Upgrades Ferrari(and RBR and Mercedes)are introducing at Silverstone:

Where are all these claims coming from? This is a whole lot of very specific claims that are seemingly coming from nowhere and not reported by any reputable sources that I can tell. Ferrari will have a whole new gearbox, for example? Or Ferrari are saying that Red Bull are gonna gain 3 tenths a lap through more lightening(wasn't RB already supposed to be near the weight limit finally?). No mention of any sources for any of these things. Never even heard of this Youtube channel before.
Yeah watched a few videos a couple months ago, he makes a lot of assumptions with not much evidence.

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falonso81 wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 17:54
Weren't Ferrari going to introduce slimmer sidepods in this race? These mirror tweaks are not going to bring them back into contention i fear.
It was reliability and strategy which put them out of contention in recent races. Surely not outright pace.