2022 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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Probably more to do with getting into his mid 20's and being seen as am adult than much else. It happened to me a year or so (or so.. :mrgreen: .) back
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erudite450 wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 18:52
Tvetovnato wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 18:25
Looks very similar to Spain. Still porpoising in fast corners, not much on the straights. Ferrari and RB will turn it up tomorrow again and be gone.
Quite a few teams were porpoising in the fast corners. The Mercedes didn't look that bad honestly. But like you said, I expect Redbull/Ferrari to be a few tenths up the road tomorrow.
People still haven’t figured out that porpoising is something that is affecting all the cars. Not just merc. Never has been. Lord Max was heard complaining about bouncing today too, finally. Maybe he just slipped up. Oops. But its obvious You have to learn how to go fast with it. The hell with the drivers health. Right?

Alpine and mclaren are also looking the bounciest theyve been all season. And its supposed to be a smooth track…

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Hammerfist wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 22:36
erudite450 wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 18:52
Tvetovnato wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 18:25
Looks very similar to Spain. Still porpoising in fast corners, not much on the straights. Ferrari and RB will turn it up tomorrow again and be gone.
Quite a few teams were porpoising in the fast corners. The Mercedes didn't look that bad honestly. But like you said, I expect Redbull/Ferrari to be a few tenths up the road tomorrow.
Alpine and mclaren are also looking the bounciest theyve been all season. And its supposed to be a smooth track…
And those two were apparently the least affected by it in testing.

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erudite450 wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 22:49
Hammerfist wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 22:36
erudite450 wrote:
01 Jul 2022, 18:52


Quite a few teams were porpoising in the fast corners. The Mercedes didn't look that bad honestly. But like you said, I expect Redbull/Ferrari to be a few tenths up the road tomorrow.
Alpine and mclaren are also looking the bounciest theyve been all season. And its supposed to be a smooth track…
And those two were apparently the least affected by it in testing.
Guess those two need to raise their ride height

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ogonek wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 09:51
Andi76 wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 08:07
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02 Jul 2022, 07:35


Just because other teams can't figure out how to get performance with the side pods it does not mean the side pods are inherently bad. Sort of a fallacy there.
Here we are again with the same old discussion, aren't we? And no discussion and facts will change our opinions. But at the end of the day F1 Teams spent a lot of money in research. And ALL TEAMS researches said that these sidepods are not the way to go. Or these teams are just stupid because they just were not able to figure out how they work. But i highly doubt that all the other teams are either wrong or stupid. The more realistic option is another one...
Mercedes 8 > other teams 0.
Thats very technical :D And also the past obviously, but the past does not matter in F1, unfortunately. And it obviously does not mean there is one team that does not make mistakes. Every team makes mistakes, and every run come to an end.

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Andi76 wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 10:20
ogonek wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 09:51
Andi76 wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 08:07


Here we are again with the same old discussion, aren't we? And no discussion and facts will change our opinions. But at the end of the day F1 Teams spent a lot of money in research. And ALL TEAMS researches said that these sidepods are not the way to go. Or these teams are just stupid because they just were not able to figure out how they work. But i highly doubt that all the other teams are either wrong or stupid. The more realistic option is another one...
Mercedes 8 > other teams 0.
Thats very technical :D And also the past obviously, but the past does not matter in F1, unfortunately. And it obviously does not mean there is one team that does not make mistakes. Every team makes mistakes, and every run come to an end.
I don't think Mercedes made a mistake, their problem is financial constraints.
Need more time...

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What’s the detail on the wheel covers, something Silverstone related?
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https://www.racefans.net/2022/07/02/mer ... s-elliott/

Title is clickbait but interesting insights from Elliott

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I think it's pretty clear they have gotten it wrong.
Major update and 6tenths down in fp3 as we speak. While RBR becomes more and more dominant. (season's over btw, as ferrari cannot keep up with rbr development)

edit: 4tenths now, still way too much
edit 2: 2tenths for lewis, is there hope? Probably Verstappen still taking it easy
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De Jokke wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 13:25
I think it's pretty clear they have gotten it wrong.
Major update and 6tenths down in fp3 as we speak. While RBR becomes more and more dominant. (season's over btw, as ferrari cannot keep up with rbr development)

edit: 4tenths now, still way too much
edit 2: 2tenths for lewis, is there hope? Probably Verstappen still taking it easy
Max just increased that back to 3tenths. Whilst having 2 yellow sectors and purple middle.
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Good progress. RUS says no bouncing, tenth and a half in race pace vs LEC and seemingly in the mix in quali pace too.
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OMG Lewis in inferior car is on it! =D> 1 tenth
(still expecting RBR to cruise it in quali)
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chrisc90 wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 13:32
De Jokke wrote:
02 Jul 2022, 13:25
I think it's pretty clear they have gotten it wrong.
Major update and 6tenths down in fp3 as we speak. While RBR becomes more and more dominant. (season's over btw, as ferrari cannot keep up with rbr development)

edit: 4tenths now, still way too much
edit 2: 2tenths for lewis, is there hope? Probably Verstappen still taking it easy
Max just increased that back to 3tenths. Whilst having 2 yellow sectors and purple middle.
And it's back down to a single tenth with a purple in the last sector for Lewis.
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Hamilton fastest in the high speed corners too. Not sure which corner they are using as reference for though though.
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RBR sandbagging, Ferrari will be closer to RBR in quali

Wondering what quali would be best:

rain: always fun
dry: good to see the true gaps between top 3 after raft of updates
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