Whenever any team principal says their team does not worry about a new technical directive and that their car is compliant, usually the opposite is true.
I am really curious what will come of this
This slot is interesting in that Toto is alleging that some teams might be using "skids that disappear" inside the plank. This slot doesn't line up with this skid thing being implied but interesting nonetheless.deadhead wrote: ↑09 Jul 2022, 20:53https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXOlEwsX0AQ-_1q?format=jpg
Under the plank I guess
Presumably as most teams are at it? And presumably because as usual any F1 team will look for a competitive advantage by interpreting the rules/finding loopholes where possible. Because that’s how you can quickly vault your team up to the front of the pack.
I would think that Flexi floor was grey area because of the tests not covering it.CaribouBread wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 10:42This slot is interesting in that Toto is alleging that some teams might be using "skids that disappear" inside the plank. This slot doesn't line up with this skid thing being implied but interesting nonetheless.deadhead wrote: ↑09 Jul 2022, 20:53https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXOlEwsX0AQ-_1q?format=jpg
Under the plank I guess
"It is suspected that some teams have cleverly split up the skid blocks, which protect the holes where the FIA plank thickness measurements are taken, in to separate sections.
There is a main skid block that runs around the majority of the hole, but then a more rearward section that moves up and down independently within the plank to become fully enclosed and protected if the car hits the ground.
By disappearing up inside the plank, this section does not get worn down as the rest of the floor hits the track – so remains at its original thickness throughout to be fully compliant with the previous 9mm depth checks that are conducted by the FIA after races."
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/disa ... 74/?nrt=54
I am struggling to follow the bit that says the skid blocks 'retract' to stop wear and the bit that says the 'plank material ' retracts to prevent wear. If either one is removed, the other gets the wear, so if they are both 'retractable, what 'scrapes' the track and takes the wear?
I'd rather say that the big hole in the RB18 floor is for maintenance purposes. You can see that there is a step around it where you can possibly fit a carbon panel to close it off before the plank gets attached.CaribouBread wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 10:42This slot is interesting in that Toto is alleging that some teams might be using "skids that disappear" inside the plank. This slot doesn't line up with this skid thing being implied but interesting nonetheless.
THAT is the real issue if teams to it. I guess the teams which run their cars very low are the most suspicious ones to fall foul of this. So Mercs (however Toto stated that they don't), Ferrari and maybe some other team?CaribouBread wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 10:42There is a main skid block that runs around the majority of the hole, but then a more rearward section that moves up and down independently within the plank to become fully enclosed and protected if the car hits the ground.
only a part of the skid block moves up. So the majority of the skid block (which isn't measured for wear by FIA!) takes the wear and only the part which is measured for wear will move up. Quite smart to say the least
Thanks, makes sense nowTzk wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 12:26only a part of the skid block moves up. So the majority of the skid block (which isn't measured for wear by FIA!) takes the wear and only the part which is measured for wear will move up. Quite smart to say the least
That happens when the FIA states the very spefic way of checking and doesn't just check the whole skid block... The latter would've prevented this right from the start.
.zibby43 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 10:43As I mentioned a week ago, it looks like it’s not necessarily flexible floors that are at issue, but at least 2 unique “features” of planks that are being exploited.
These features will be prohibited by Belgium.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/disa ... /10335974/
But this isn’t a grey area, this is double fuel tank out and out cheatingTzk wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 12:26only a part of the skid block moves up. So the majority of the skid block (which isn't measured for wear by FIA!) takes the wear and only the part which is measured for wear will move up. Quite smart to say the least
That happens when the FIA states the very spefic way of checking and doesn't just check the whole skid block... The latter would've prevented this right from the start.
It seems that whoever is running a flexing plank (the very thing which was discussed and deemed to be illegal but not put into the regs by the FIA prior to the season) used their influence to get the FIA to delay any measures to next year, whilst those who use other tricks were not as successful.Toto Wolff [...] confirmed [...] that two tricks had emerged [...]
“[...] Some teams have skids that actually disappear when the car hits the bottom [...] that is clearly against the regulations.
Then the second thing is a plank that can deflect [...] you gain some performance there too.
“[...]he first one [skid tricks] is going to disappear for Spa [...] And the second one is going to be clarified in next year's regulations.”
How did Bar running double tanks not get the opportunity to run it all year, this all stinks very badly.RZS10 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2022, 12:47Taken from this article ‘Disappearing’ skid blocks a part of F1’s flexi floor tricks
It seems that whoever is running a flexing plank (the very thing which was discussed and deemed to be illegal but not put into the regs by the FIA prior to the season) used their influence to get the FIA to delay any measures to next year, whilst those who use other tricks were not as successful.Toto Wolff [...] confirmed [...] that two tricks had emerged [...]
“[...] Some teams have skids that actually disappear when the car hits the bottom [...] that is clearly against the regulations.
Then the second thing is a plank that can deflect [...] you gain some performance there too.
“[...]he first one [skid tricks] is going to disappear for Spa [...] And the second one is going to be clarified in next year's regulations.”