2022 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

[Ben1980]

A pretty dull race overall. Nando and is fast start just got them ahead and it was hard to keep up. Too much tyre management.

Still think it's close between the macca and the Alpine.

[mwillems]

Dull and plus we barely saw anything of the Mclaren in the race unless it was Carlos Overtaking them.

[CjC]

Lando just pulled a massive carbon piece from the tunnel area when he got out of the car, looked like it was lodged in there... guess less than ideal... pretty funny how he handled it

Definitely lost downforce and therefore lap time because of that

[Seerix]

Anyone know why Jose was Landos engineer today? Yesterday during quali Will was there as usual.

[SmallSoldier]

Lando just pulled a massive carbon piece from the tunnel area when he got out of the car, looked like it was lodged in there... guess less than ideal... pretty funny how he handled it

Definitely lost downforce and therefore lap time because of that

It was the front brake duct aero fairings… Most probably his own… How it dislodged / broke and when no idea


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[Maax70]

Lovely job by Daniel, his usual 3-4 tenths of lando throughout the weekend and made even better this time round by costing us 4th in the WDC
If Daniel could at some point this season remember he isn’t in a formula 2 car , we might be able to fight Alpine for 4th.

I absolutely cannot wait for the day that Ricciardo is fired from McLaren. No matter how much he brings in in sponsorship, it cannot possibly be worth loosing 3rd in 2021 and now loosing 4th in 2022.

What an absolute joke of a driver he has become. At this point, just fire him now and rotate whoever wants to have go for some money through the car because they cannot possibly be worse than the Aussie currently in it.

Daniel results are disappointing, no doubt. However I don't think that the root cause of the performace of MCL36 is the budget allocated for RIC even if the expectations were different. In my opinion the gap with RIC demonstrad that Mclaren has one of the best talent in F1.

My concern is that with this level of performance sooner or later we risk to see Lando leave MCL. Charles, Carlos, Max and now also George have competitive cars. The only one still with the "others" is Lando. So let's hope Luis still continue to race and Perez side Max in Redbull (I don't think Max will accept Lando as teammate).

[Mostlyeels]

Lando just pulled a massive carbon piece from the tunnel area when he got out of the car, looked like it was lodged in there... guess less than ideal... pretty funny how he handled it

Was that his front bib (t-tray), that had come loose?

[Big Tea]

Lando just pulled a massive carbon piece from the tunnel area when he got out of the car, looked like it was lodged in there... guess less than ideal... pretty funny how he handled it

Was that his front bib (t-tray), that had come loose?

(Lando says) Ah, I thought something didn't feel right.

[AR3-GP]

Does anyone know what kind of part that Lando removed from the car? That doesn't even look like it comes from a Formula 1 car.

[SmallSoldier]

Does anyone know what kind of part that Lando removed from the car? That doesn't even look like it comes from a Formula 1 car.

The winglets from the front brake ducts… Most probably from his car and not picked up from someone else



Drawing from Craig Scarborough

[AR3-GP]

Does anyone know what kind of part that Lando removed from the car? That doesn't even look like it comes from a Formula 1 car.

The winglets from the front brake ducts… Most probably from his car and not picked up from someone else

https://i.imgur.com/DI6nmp4.jpg

Drawing from Craig Scarborough

Thank you!

So was the part from Lando's own car? So not only did he not have the winglet in the right place doing it's job, it also ruined the airflow down the right hand side of the floor. Was he complaining over the radio about the handling?

[McG]

Lovely job by Daniel, his usual 3-4 tenths of lando throughout the weekend and made even better this time round by costing us 4th in the WDC
If Daniel could at some point this season remember he isn’t in a formula 2 car , we might be able to fight Alpine for 4th.

I absolutely cannot wait for the day that Ricciardo is fired from McLaren. No matter how much he brings in in sponsorship, it cannot possibly be worth loosing 3rd in 2021 and now loosing 4th in 2022.

What an absolute joke of a driver he has become. At this point, just fire him now and rotate whoever wants to have go for some money through the car because they cannot possibly be worse than the Aussie currently in it.

Unfortunately I agree. Lando is one of the best at this point and is embarrassing Ricciardo nearly every race. 3-4 tenths is massive. Don't like to have too much of negative attitude towards over all finishing position at the end of this season, but really there's not much point in celebrating or hoping for 4th or 5th in the constructors championship. Doesn't really matter anymore, we are cheering for a team that has been midfield for nearly a decade. McLaren will only win championships again if small miracle occurs. The sooner the new wind tunnel is operational the better but it will never be enough. F1 is in a sad place.

[Mclarensenna]

Lovely job by Daniel, his usual 3-4 tenths of lando throughout the weekend and made even better this time round by costing us 4th in the WDC
If Daniel could at some point this season remember he isn’t in a formula 2 car , we might be able to fight Alpine for 4th.

I absolutely cannot wait for the day that Ricciardo is fired from McLaren. No matter how much he brings in in sponsorship, it cannot possibly be worth loosing 3rd in 2021 and now loosing 4th in 2022.

What an absolute joke of a driver he has become. At this point, just fire him now and rotate whoever wants to have go for some money through the car because they cannot possibly be worse than the Aussie currently in it.

"launchedsquid
3 days ago

Until McLaren realizes that they are going down the wrong path with their car design they won't become front of grid challengers.

Lando's great driving is doing McLaren a disservice, his brilliant performances have masked fundamental design errors that are limiting the team's performance ceiling.
Rarely in F1 is it good to have a car that behaves fundamentally differently to all the others.
McLaren aren't seeing Ricciardo's poor performances as the warning sign they are.

He's a 'known quantity', we've seen him against the best of the other drivers and if one of the best of the current drivers can't deliver within half a second of your other driver than either Lando is literally the best driver in F1 by an impossibly wide margin or their car is fundamentally flawed.
Lando is great, don't get me wrong, but as good as he is he's not 4-5 tenths per lap quicker than Max, which is what a 6 tenth lead over Ricciardo would signify.

Ricciardo's poor performances are the warning that McLaren shouldn't ignore, sadly Lando's awesome driving is lulling them into ignoring that very warning."

<----- this comment summs up the situation perfectly

[JPower]

Until McLaren realizes that they are going down the wrong path with their car design they won't become front of grid challengers.

Lando's great driving is doing McLaren a disservice, his brilliant performances have masked fundamental design errors that are limiting the team's performance ceiling.
Rarely in F1 is it good to have a car that behaves fundamentally differently to all the others.
McLaren aren't seeing Ricciardo's poor performances as the warning sign they are.

He's a 'known quantity', we've seen him against the best of the other drivers and if one of the best of the current drivers can't deliver within half a second of your other driver than either Lando is literally the best driver in F1 by an impossibly wide margin or their car is fundamentally flawed.
Lando is great, don't get me wrong, but as good as he is he's not 4-5 tenths per lap quicker than Max, which is what a 6 tenth lead over Ricciardo would signify.

I don't think I agree with that.

There's nothing to suggest this year's McLaren drives fundamentally different from any other car on the grid. They are all temperamental. We've heard reports of the Ferrari, RB, Mercedes, and Williams all being difficult to drive at times and have seen the results due to offs/crashes.

This angle absolves DR of all responsibility on his side, which I think is unfair. Many drivers have also had to change their driving styles this year. DR should be capable of the same if he is the top driver people say he is.

[Mclarensenna]

Lovely job by Daniel, his usual 3-4 tenths of lando throughout the weekend and made even better this time round by costing us 4th in the WDC
If Daniel could at some point this season remember he isn’t in a formula 2 car , we might be able to fight Alpine for 4th.

I absolutely cannot wait for the day that Ricciardo is fired from McLaren. No matter how much he brings in in sponsorship, it cannot possibly be worth loosing 3rd in 2021 and now loosing 4th in 2022.

What an absolute joke of a driver he has become. At this point, just fire him now and rotate whoever wants to have go for some money through the car because they cannot possibly be worse than the Aussie currently in it.

Like previous reply i put. People forget Ric demolished Vettel in his own car with 3 wins to zero. They also forget he beat Max the 1st 2 years and the 3rd year he was ahead by points at the halfway mark with 2 wins. Max ended up beating Ric but only due to the fact Ric had 8 retirements that zero were his fault vs Max with 2 retirements not his fault, . Most agree Max is the fastest on the grid. Most would agree Max would easily beat Norris at redbull with many saying he would get Gasl'd next to Max let alone be half a second quicker than Max.

People forget Ric beat Hulk which Sainz could not in equal machinary.

People also forget Ric demolished Ocon who is no slouch and rate him on par with Sainz. Ric in a vastly inferior Renault using Ocon as a benchmark beat both Sainz and Norris who were driving much faster Mclarens. Ocon is the bechnmark to see how fast these cars really were.

2020
Ocon only 62 points
Sainz 105 points (most including me rate Sainz and Ocon similar)
Norris 97
Ric 119

How did Ric beat both Mclaren drivers with an inferior Renault car in 202 if he is so slow?

Ric is struggling because the Mclaren is honestly a piece of crap and very inconsistant due to the strange counter intuitive driving traits.
The Mclaren is 1 off strange car that no F2 or GP2/3/4 go kart or any car in any series drives like let alone F1. Norris confirmed this along with Sainz.
Mclaren has a wake up call moment like when they switched from Honda to Renault and realised the chassis was junk and finally made some positive changes otherwise they would still be running last with that Honda engine being blamed.

Ric is the wake up call at Mclaren also. Nobody is winning a championship with the Mclaren , no Ham , Max or Senna even.
Ric has never struggled in any series or at any team( even 4 x F1 teams now) like he is now. That surely is telling you something using such a consistant proven benchmark. Norris even said no car he drove previously behaves like this.

As a Mclaren fan i dont care if Ric comes last and Mclaren falls to 9th even. Actualky i prefer it. It will wake Mclaren up to design a proper car and not an incosnsistant, 1 off strangest driving car in all of racing. And give them more wind tunnel and CFD time. So yes struggling 1 year benefits you the next with current rules many people seem to overlook.

Even if you replaced Ric there is no gaurantee any other F1 driver would get on top of that strange driving car and 90% sure results would be the same as it is very difficult to unlearn regular driving habits to strange driving habits. and if by miracle they did match Norris, most you would achieve this year is 4th.

I would rather come 9th, gain extra wind tunnel time and CFD time and use it to create a proper car next year.
Most Mclaren fans would prefer coming 9th this year if next year it meant coming 1st.
It seems some prefer Mclaren comes 4th every year with a strange driving trait car that can sure grab a few podiums but in general be 1 second off the pace and will always finish 4th-6th in the championshp.

Sorry i do not want to see Mclaren coming 4th for the next 5 years.
I want to see Mclaren win.
I would much rather see them come 7th 1st , 4th 1st 7th, 2nd etc
Then 4th , 4th , 4th , 4th , 3rd, 5th , 4th. As that is the best you will ever acheive with a strange driving trait, 1 off anamoly in not just all of F1 but all of racing in general!