2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[mendis]

we have to forgot this year wcc and wdc. It seems like,
driver making mistake,
team making mistake,
reliability issue.

Binnoto will be gone if it continues in 2023.

they need experienced driver. I don't think Lec or Sainz can win with ferrari for next few years.

If this tread continues like this they have to forgot the WDC and WCC till next rule change.

I think they just need better fans.

Is the air conditioning is not working well?

[aleks_ader]

we have to forgot this year wcc and wdc. It seems like,
driver making mistake,
team making mistake,
reliability issue.

Binnoto will be gone if it continues in 2023.

they need experienced driver. I don't think Lec or Sainz can win with ferrari for next few years.

If this tread continues like this they have to forgot the WDC and WCC till next rule change.

I think they just need better fans.

Ba dum da dum tsk

[Andres125sx]

Sainz :Carlos’ interview after the race, Asked about how Charles will fair without him up front against the two Res Bulls he said “I think it will be easier for him that I’m not there, I’ve been faster all weekend.

all he thinks is about beating Leclerc , thats all.

Dude... It was a dumb question, and he replied with a joke. He literally went through quali putting his engine under stress just to give Charles a tow. He was great and he has been faster all weekend...

ffs not a kid that you are explaining me if he was joking or not. There is hint of competitiveness in that , obviously hes not going to declare a open war on leclerc , but there is enough proof what his primary goal is.

Sincerely, if you think a F1 driver trying to beat his teammate hard is something bad, the problem is yours.

Teammates are always first rival for any F1 driver, as they´re the only driver with same car so they´re the first to be compared, by the team, by the fans, and by theirselves


Also, trying to add fuel to the "is Sainz a good teammate?" absurd debate, just after Sainz provided an awesome tow to Charles by his own, wich Lecrerc admited and praised, only exposes your own bias

[Andres125sx]

So it was Lecrerc mistake...



I´m afraid this is the final nail in championship coffin, he was performing at a very very high level, but if you add to Ferrari mistakes (strategy, pit-stop and reliability) mistakes like this, WDC and WCC titles are gone.

Don´t get me wrong, Lecrerc is still performing much higher than Ferrari and if they can´t fight for any title it will be Ferrari´s fault much more than Lecrerc fault, but in the end the result is the same

[Sevach]

What i don't get is if Charles was going long to catch Verstappen later in the race why was he pushing so hard at that stage...

[JPower]

we have to forgot this year wcc and wdc. It seems like,
driver making mistake,
team making mistake,
reliability issue.

Binnoto will be gone if it continues in 2023.

they need experienced driver. I don't think Lec or Sainz can win with ferrari for next few years.

If this tread continues like this they have to forgot the WDC and WCC till next rule change.

I think they just need better fans.

Can't say it wouldn't help.

[basti313]

What i don't get is if Charles was going long to catch Verstappen later in the race why was he pushing so hard at that stage...

Same as Imola. There was nothing to gain from over pushing and he throws away ....

Still there is the big question, why they did an inlap at this point. I mean inlap is full push, but I do not get why the strategy was to pit on this lap. The tires on Ver dropped away, but Lec had decent laps, no drop visible. Only 1-2 more laps and Alfonso is cleared, maybe some 5 laps and even the Mercs are gone. That was easily possible, Gas did over 30 laps on the mediums with a better pace in the end than the hard runners around him.

As they also pitted Sainz after ~20 laps or wanted to pit him, I guess the strategist had an agenda of "20 laps on the medium". No input from the race, but just 20 laps...

[billamend]

What i don't get is if Charles was going long to catch Verstappen later in the race why was he pushing so hard at that stage...

Trying to avoid the undercut.

[JPower]

What i don't get is if Charles was going long to catch Verstappen later in the race why was he pushing so hard at that stage...

Same as Imola. There was nothing to gain from over pushing and he throws away ....

Still there is the big question, why they did an inlap at this point. I mean inlap is full push, but I do not get why the strategy was to pit on this lap. The tires on Ver dropped away, but Lec had decent laps, no drop visible. Only 1-2 more laps and Alfonso is cleared, maybe some 5 laps and even the Mercs are gone. That was easily possible, Gas did over 30 laps on the mediums with a better pace in the end than the hard runners around him.

As they also pitted Sainz after ~20 laps or wanted to pit him, I guess the strategist had an agenda of "20 laps on the medium". No input from the race, but just 20 laps...

Gasly wasn't running at the pace the Ferraris were though.

Ferrari has a good handle on the tires this year. I see no reason not to trust their estimates on how long they feel they will last at a given pace.

[aleks_ader]

Sure Charles F u p- Strategy was on point and going long had its sense. They forced RB in suboptimal strat.

I guess pitstop blunder was total phycological meltdown because their best driver made mistake. That's is huge problem for management. How to gather thoughts after such mistakes? How will Laurent Meekies solve this? I saw he organised some sort pep talks before Autrian race weekend in pitlane. So there quite a challenge how improve collective spirit. I guess individual trainings and clear organizational goals will need to get revisit.

Maybe is even language barrier and trust issue with upper management. Does Laurent even spoke Italian?

[BlueCheetah66]

Sure Charles F u p- Strategy was on point and going long had its sense. They forced RB in suboptimal strat.

I guess pitstop blunder was total phycological meltdown because their best driver made mistake. That's is huge problem for management. How to gather thoughts after such mistakes? How will Laurent Meekies solve this? I saw he organised some sort pep talks before Autrian race weekend in pitlane. So there quite a challenge how improve collective spirit. I guess individual trainings and clear organizational goals will need to get revisit.

Maybe is even language barrier and trust issue with upper management. Does Laurent even spoke Italian?

Were they not going to pit Leclerc the lap when he crashed. If so, Red Bulls strategy would not have been suboptimal and maybe even good if Verstappen successfully undercut

Also I saw a picture on Twitter that showed the red light in the pitbox was still on when Sainz pulled away, which means the pitcrew actually did nothing wrong and the penalty was actually on Sainz

[Slahinki]

the pitcrew actually did nothing wrong

The penalty was on Sainz but let's not pretend the pit crew didn't mess up the stop.

[dialtone]

the pitcrew actually did nothing wrong

The penalty was on Sainz but let's not pretend the pit crew didn't mess up the stop.

Why? If the light was red the guy was keeping up the rear axle to avoid him getting the penalty no?

[Slahinki]

the pitcrew actually did nothing wrong

The penalty was on Sainz but let's not pretend the pit crew didn't mess up the stop.

Why? If the light was red the guy was keeping up the rear axle to avoid him getting the penalty no?

Because if it hadn't been a slow stop there wouldn't have been a need to hold him in the first place.

[dialtone]

The penalty was on Sainz but let's not pretend the pit crew didn't mess up the stop.

Why? If the light was red the guy was keeping up the rear axle to avoid him getting the penalty no?

Because if it hadn't been a slow stop there wouldn't have been a need to hold him in the first place.

No team can be perfect and record shows on pit stops Ferrari is the best this season. Also it wouldn't have changed anything to do that stop faster.