2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[pipoloko]

I read every post so far...

And it seems that most of you (to say it politely) question Ferrari's strategy at various levels and you worry about reliability.
I have to remind you that Binotto never said that this year's target is either of the championships. And I strongly believe because he already knew that the engine is not reliable enough. Probably he didn't expect all those failures, but still... Anyway, the engine is an issue that will be fixed.

The strategy on the other hand seems to be all over the place. In one race they are perfect, on the next one they seem lost. I don't believe it's black and white. Nothing in life is black and white.
The truth is somewhere in the middle. I still believe that their software is not capable to react on real time data. Which forces them to stick to the well known pre-defined plan A,B,C,D,E (I think we heard E on Canada?). And this is a very possible explanation for their "lost in space" reactions when there is something unplanned (SC, VSC, slow pitstop, undercut, double stack etc).

Then we have the huge issue with the race engineers. I am sorry, but they don't do a good job. Actually they are doing a terrible job! Communication is vital. Ferrari seems not to understand this. Leclerc not being able to engage reverse, means he didn't practice the procedure enough times to familiarize himself. They don't need track time for this, they can practice it back in the factory. But isn't the job of his race engineer to be sure that the car and the driver are prepared at their best? Unless of course his job is just the car, in which case I have to ask why do they keep those guys in the communication loop!
Having your race engineer asking you to pit when you are right behind Perez is one thing. But asking you to pit when it's clear that you will attack in the following 2-3 corners means you don't pay any attention to your driver! Not to mention that your driver already told you to stay out because they wouldn't have time to catch them later. If data show that he will not finish the race, you go on the radio and say so.

Now, for the slow pit-stop: Hot headed Carlos left with the red light on. Pitstop was slow because something was stuck. Those things happen. Every team has issues every now and then. The fact that this year Ferrari has the record of the fastest pitstop (and got it twice!) means that normally they are fast.
STILL, this is something that they have to PRACTICE in the factory!!! I mean the could even practice that in Fiorano with 4 years old Ferraris, to make it as realistic as possible!

I agree 100%
Binotto did not want to discuss the issue with reverse it is clear they have an issue there!!!!!!

[Sevach]

Right before the crash the team got ready for a pitstop as far as I remember.

Nothing indicates that, no radio calls for box.

[dialtone]

I agree 100%
Binotto did not want to discuss the issue with reverse it is clear they have an issue there!!!!!!

Do you and tpe both realize that Perez had the same identical problem in canada when his nose got stuck in the safety barrier?

Could it be that, and I might be going off on a limb here, reverse isn't designed to take the car out of the safety barriers when they are stuck?

[PhillipM]

Doubtful, gears afaik are regulated in widths etc, to prevent the use of dummy gears to save weight

[dialtone]

Doubtful, gears afaik are regulated in widths etc, to prevent the use of dummy gears to save weight

What's the connection with the discussion?

[pipoloko]

the connection it is related to what it looks a "technical complex issue" when you want to use reverse in a F1 car
a "design issue" that no one wants to speak about in public
I believe that the fact that CL was too much frustrated and did not help him, it looks like they need to follow a certain procedure to engage in reverse
CL was " very hot" was not thinking straight and that did not help him
if you hear the amount of info they receive per lap , engineers are the" brain" behind the guys , it could happen tha CL fu..ed after touching the wall. having kind of mental blockage and 20 sec after you are gone . you need to go to pits change tires and nose and calm down.!!!!
Maturity is something that CL still needs to show.
not 100% sure about that but it looks like

[PhillipM]

Doubtful, gears afaik are regulated in widths etc, to prevent the use of dummy gears to save weight

What's the connection with the discussion?

That it doesn't matter where the car is reverse gear is strong enough to be used.

[dialtone]

Doubtful, gears afaik are regulated in widths etc, to prevent the use of dummy gears to save weight

What's the connection with the discussion?

That it doesn't matter where the car is reverse gear is strong enough to be used.

A bit of punctuation would help understand your sentence. Assuming what you are trying to say... It isn't strong enough, Perez was stuck and the car went in protection mode and didn't engage reverse when he tried to use it to get out. Even with the help of 3 marshals they couldn't unstuck the car from the barrier.

The same happened here. On top of it Binotto has never lied when it comes to technical things.

And this is enough nonsense conspiracy for me for the rest of the week.

[PhillipM]

Of course it's strong enough it's not only regulated but we've often seen them put enough power through reverse to spin the wheels. Nothing but personal attacks from you tonight, grow up.
There's plenty of punctuation in that sentence, maybe try looking for it.

[Watto]

What's the connection with the discussion?

That it doesn't matter where the car is reverse gear is strong enough to be used.

A bit of punctuation would help understand your sentence. Assuming what you are trying to say... It isn't strong enough, Perez was stuck and the car went in protection mode and didn't engage reverse when he tried to use it to get out. Even with the help of 3 marshals they couldn't unstuck the car from the barrier.

The same happened here. On top of it Binotto has never lied when it comes to technical things.

And this is enough nonsense conspiracy for me for the rest of the week.

To me it was just a driver error, unless something else comes out to show a car issue., seen a few analyses it now and moat that take it at face value dismiss it.


I don't completely rule out something wrong with the car but right now the evidence doesn't point to it just that Charles made a mistake. I think hes probably made a few of them (one chasing Perez earlier his year took too much kerb spun iirc but kept it off the wall)

Watching what Charles said again on team radio, probably reaffirms that.

[dialtone]

That it doesn't matter where the car is reverse gear is strong enough to be used.

A bit of punctuation would help understand your sentence. Assuming what you are trying to say... It isn't strong enough, Perez was stuck and the car went in protection mode and didn't engage reverse when he tried to use it to get out. Even with the help of 3 marshals they couldn't unstuck the car from the barrier.

The same happened here. On top of it Binotto has never lied when it comes to technical things.

And this is enough nonsense conspiracy for me for the rest of the week.

To me it was just a driver error, unless something else comes out to show a car issue., seen a few analyses it now and moat that take it at face value dismiss it.


I don't completely rule out something wrong with the car but right now the evidence doesn't point to it just that Charles made a mistake. I think hes probably made a few of them (one chasing Perez earlier his year took too much kerb spun iirc but kept it off the wall)

Watching what Charles said again on team radio, probably reaffirms that.

Of course it's driver error. Trolls don't care about data.

[F1NAC]

That it doesn't matter where the car is reverse gear is strong enough to be used.

A bit of punctuation would help understand your sentence. Assuming what you are trying to say... It isn't strong enough, Perez was stuck and the car went in protection mode and didn't engage reverse when he tried to use it to get out. Even with the help of 3 marshals they couldn't unstuck the car from the barrier.

The same happened here. On top of it Binotto has never lied when it comes to technical things.

And this is enough nonsense conspiracy for me for the rest of the week.

To me it was just a driver error, unless something else comes out to show a car issue., seen a few analyses it now and moat that take it at face value dismiss it.


I don't completely rule out something wrong with the car but right now the evidence doesn't point to it just that Charles made a mistake. I think hes probably made a few of them (one chasing Perez earlier his year took too much kerb spun iirc but kept it off the wall)

Watching what Charles said again on team radio, probably reaffirms that.

well, after every race there are graphs with throttle engagement. I think we can put to bed anything car related. Car was fine. It happens. It's painful. But guy must learn from somewhere.

[tpe]

I agree 100%
Binotto did not want to discuss the issue with reverse it is clear they have an issue there!!!!!!

Do you and tpe both realize that Perez had the same identical problem in canada when his nose got stuck in the safety barrier?

Could it be that, and I might be going off on a limb here, reverse isn't designed to take the car out of the safety barriers when they are stuck?

Didn't Perez actually engaged reverse?
In Leclerc's case, it seems that he could not engage it, more or less. I would be more than happy if the issue was that reverse is too weak and cannot pull the car out of the tire barriers (although I doubt!)

[Andres125sx]

I didn't see the wheels spinning backwards. I actually got surprised he didn't try to get out of the barriers, as the impact was not hard, probably a new nose and he could have finished the race

[F1NAC]

It's easier to spin the wheels on wet grass than it is on tarmac.