Mercedes W13

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Sieper
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They only had one run on red. They were there (after some track evolution) when they did their run.

If indeed the brakes and engines are getting thát hot that might be a real issue.

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vanburin
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De Jokke wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 15:05

Merc should be trying out different sidepods and floor stuff, testing things out like hell. Why aren't they?
Budget cap, I'm sure you've heard of it? This isn't yesteryear, where a team could throw infinite amounts of cash and resources at "trying" new things out. Unfortunately this is an exact consequence to the budget restraints put in for this season.

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Sieper wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 15:10
They only had one run on red. They were there (after some track evolution) when they did their run.
Also it's just FP1 so one should not draw too much conclusions.
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De Jokke wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 15:05
Merc should be trying out different sidepods and floor stuff, testing things out like hell. Why aren't they?
Probably because they have a better idea of their car than some random forum visitor.
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wesley123 wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 15:38
De Jokke wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 15:05
Merc should be trying out different sidepods and floor stuff, testing things out like hell. Why aren't they?
Probably because they have a better idea of their car than some random forum visitor.
It's baffling how uneducated someone's comments are.

matt_s
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I mean, maybe they should try some inflatable sidepods and just keep blowing them up until they're fast. :twisted:

Why aren't they?
Budget cap.

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De Jokke
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Funny to see how many still finding this 'ok'.

Mercedes is a joke this year, I hate to say it, but I have no problem to admit it (which most people here are).
They try not much compared to other teams (AM even build a b-spec in budget cap times, Williams (also not very sound) improved much more relative to merc).

Merc in 2022:
*hmm, let's try this minor tweak to the floor: ow yes 3 thousands gain.
*Let's try a new rear wing (which other teams already had way way before): yes another tenth found.


Keep mocking my posts but I know that W14 will be a dud too if they keep going like this. :roll:
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De Jokke wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 18:21
Funny to see how many still finding this 'ok'.

Mercedes is a joke this year, I hate to say it, but I have no problem to admit it (which most people here are).
They try not much compared to other teams (AM even build a b-spec in budget cap times, Williams (also not very sound) improved much more relative to merc).

Merc in 2022:
*hmm, let's try this minor tweak to the floor: ow yes 3 thousands gain.
*Let's try a new rear wing (which other teams already had way way before): yes another tenth found.


Keep mocking my posts but I know that W14 will be a dud too if they keep going like this. :roll:
Mercedes have always been Sir Lewis merchant, if I want to "troll" I would say 10s of gap in France between Verstappen and Hamilton is less than on some occasion last season (Austria, Zandvoort before the extrastop, Baku before the puncture of Verstappen, Mexico...) :oops:

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De Jokke wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 15:05
It's baffling how uneducated someone's comments are.
First day on the world wide web eh?? Welcome! :D

wesley123
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De Jokke wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 18:21
Funny to see how many still finding this 'ok'.

Mercedes is a joke this year, I hate to say it, but I have no problem to admit it (which most people here are).
They try not much compared to other teams (AM even build a b-spec in budget cap times, Williams (also not very sound) improved much more relative to merc).

Merc in 2022:
*hmm, let's try this minor tweak to the floor: ow yes 3 thousands gain.
*Let's try a new rear wing (which other teams already had way way before): yes another tenth found.


Keep mocking my posts but I know that W14 will be a dud too if they keep going like this. :roll:
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Henri
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The zero sidepods look ugly and are crap... we want the original spec car not this dog of a car that has zero down force.. 🤣

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De Jokke wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 18:21
Funny to see how many still finding this 'ok'.

Mercedes is a joke this year, I hate to say it, but I have no problem to admit it (which most people here are).
They try not much compared to other teams (AM even build a b-spec in budget cap times, Williams (also not very sound) improved much more relative to merc).

Merc in 2022:
*hmm, let's try this minor tweak to the floor: ow yes 3 thousands gain.
*Let's try a new rear wing (which other teams already had way way before): yes another tenth found.


Keep mocking my posts but I know that W14 will be a dud too if they keep going like this. :roll:
The sidepod design is so amateur whats stoping them from copying red bull and ferrari... the wind tunnel has bad correlation issues

cplchanb
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I think the mod needs to filter out some of these clearly disparaging and childish jab comments that have no technical value

101FlyingDutchman
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I actually still think this sidepod design has the legs to be the superior concept. FER evaluated it but it’s extremely tricky to do. Lots of unsupported real estate/tricky flow structures. I think in the main, the Merc is actually struggling under the floor/tunnel flow. Whether that’s because of suspension (it looks extremely stiff) or actual tunnel design. Likely so it can run close to the surface which gives this design max DF that’s seen in the windtunnel/CFD? I don’t think the sidepods are the reason they’re so far off the pace. They simply don’t have THAT much effect on the total package!

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De Jokke
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It's messing up the whole car, creating problems in several areas.
That's why they can't get a hold of it. Each time they solve something, something else pops up. (they said so themselves) It's the neverending story.

Funny: all the negativily rated posters are the ones who dare to say what's going on with this car :roll:
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