2022 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 29 - 31

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vanburin wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 17:43
sunny1304r wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 17:40
Merc fans (who thought they will be the strongest here) : Mercedes is sandbagging .......
Lewis was just on a faster lap (a good half a second up on his fastest time to that point) when he got completely blocked by Norris. Merc looks to be in that 5th/6th mix right now in one-lap pace, so status quo.
Apart from Williams, Mercedes was the only team to use an additional, second set of new Softs, though - so that obviously came with a bit of an advantage.

Consequently, they'll have one set less for FP3, but they are probably confident that it's going to rain anyway

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sunny1304r wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 17:40
Merc fans (who thought they will be the strongest here) : Mercedes is sandbagging .......
Not just dry sandbags, wet sandbags!
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Average long run pace.
1. Ferrari (1.23.6/Mediums)
2. Red Bull (1.24.2/Mediums)
3. Aston Martin (1.24.5/Mediums)
4. McLaren (1.24.6/Hards)
5. Mercedes (1.25.2/Mediums)
6. Alpine (1.25.3/Mediums)
7. Alfa Romeo (1.25.3/Mediums)
8. Alpha Tauri (1.25.5/Mediums)
9. Haas (1.25.7/Mediums)
10. Williams (1.25.8/Mediums)

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mendis wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 19:30
Average long run pace.
1. Ferrari (1.23.6/Mediums)
2. Red Bull (1.24.2/Mediums)
3. Aston Martin (1.24.5/Mediums)
4. McLaren (1.24.6/Hards)
5. Mercedes (1.25.2/Mediums)
6. Alpine (1.25.3/Mediums)
7. Alfa Romeo (1.25.3/Mediums)
8. Alpha Tauri (1.25.5/Mediums)
9. Haas (1.25.7/Mediums)
10. Williams (1.25.8/Mediums)
If McLaren can do those times on hard tyres, they're effectively up there with Red Bull.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 19:33
mendis wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 19:30
Average long run pace.
1. Ferrari (1.23.6/Mediums)
2. Red Bull (1.24.2/Mediums)
3. Aston Martin (1.24.5/Mediums)
4. McLaren (1.24.6/Hards)
5. Mercedes (1.25.2/Mediums)
6. Alpine (1.25.3/Mediums)
7. Alfa Romeo (1.25.3/Mediums)
8. Alpha Tauri (1.25.5/Mediums)
9. Haas (1.25.7/Mediums)
10. Williams (1.25.8/Mediums)
If McLaren can do those times on hard tyres, they're effectively up there with Red Bull.
That extrapolation can be wrong as the cars are probably setup biased towards certain compound and the performance on other compounds may not be same/better, especially on long runs.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 19:33
mendis wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 19:30
Average long run pace.
1. Ferrari (1.23.6/Mediums)
2. Red Bull (1.24.2/Mediums)
3. Aston Martin (1.24.5/Mediums)
4. McLaren (1.24.6/Hards)
5. Mercedes (1.25.2/Mediums)
6. Alpine (1.25.3/Mediums)
7. Alfa Romeo (1.25.3/Mediums)
8. Alpha Tauri (1.25.5/Mediums)
9. Haas (1.25.7/Mediums)
10. Williams (1.25.8/Mediums)
If McLaren can do those times on hard tyres, they're effectively up there with Red Bull.
Even close to Ferrari... these Hard tyres are very slow

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Spoutnik wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 19:35
Just_a_fan wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 19:33
If McLaren can do those times on hard tyres, they're effectively up there with Red Bull.
Even close to Ferrari... these Hard tyres are very slow
McLaren did a longrun on Softs as well and (fuel burning adjusted) it was about as quick as Vettel's , half a second slower than Verstappen's (in FP1), 8 tenths slower than Ferrari.

So they were good, but no need to get overconfident.

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Looks like it will be an easy 1-2 for Ferrari if they don't run qualifying in the wet tomorrow. If it's wet quali then anything could happen

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dialtone wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 19:12
IMHO Ferrari is stronger but it's not 1s/lap stronger.
Thank you once again for doing the analysis for the rest of us

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We could be seeing these times looking out of place due to cars being setup expecting a wet track.

Maybe things will be more status quo come tomorrow

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GrizzleBoy wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 21:39
We could be seeing these times looking out of place due to cars being setup expecting a wet track.

Maybe things will be more status quo come tomorrow
This is pretty much exactly what Russell indicated after FP2. Let's see what tomorrow brings.

Although he agreed it was not a smooth day for Mercedes, Russell explained that the team experimented a bit to try and get to the bottom of its struggles given the expecting rain on Saturday.

"The conditions for Sunday are going to be drastically different, so we were trying quite a few things with the car, using it as a bit of a test session because to be honest," Russell said.

"You can try and optimise a few things for today, but there's no use of that, it's all for the rest of the weekend.

"Even though it was a very tough day, I think it's been a productive one."


https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hami ... /10345303/

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vanburin wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 21:53
GrizzleBoy wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 21:39
We could be seeing these times looking out of place due to cars being setup expecting a wet track.

Maybe things will be more status quo come tomorrow
This is pretty much exactly what Russell indicated after FP2. Let's see what tomorrow brings.

Although he agreed it was not a smooth day for Mercedes, Russell explained that the team experimented a bit to try and get to the bottom of its struggles given the expecting rain on Saturday.

"The conditions for Sunday are going to be drastically different, so we were trying quite a few things with the car, using it as a bit of a test session because to be honest," Russell said.

"You can try and optimise a few things for today, but there's no use of that, it's all for the rest of the weekend.

"Even though it was a very tough day, I think it's been a productive one."


https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hami ... /10345303/
Thats odd, the weather for Sunday looks pretty good, with only Saturday looking wet at current. Clutching at straws for the poor show they put on today more than likely and blaming the weather 2 days ahead. #PR63

https://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing ... spx?sday=2

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chrisc90 wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 21:56

Thats odd, the weather for Sunday looks pretty good, with only Saturday looking wet at current. Clutching at straws for the poor show they put on today more than likely and blaming the weather 2 days ahead. #PR63

https://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing ... spx?sday=2
He doesn't necessarily say rain on Sunday, just different weather conditions. I would say a forecasted high temperature of 9-10 degrees C less than today would be a drastic difference.

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vanburin wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 22:02
chrisc90 wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 21:56

Thats odd, the weather for Sunday looks pretty good, with only Saturday looking wet at current. Clutching at straws for the poor show they put on today more than likely and blaming the weather 2 days ahead. #PR63

https://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing ... spx?sday=2
He doesn't necessarily say rain on Sunday, just different weather conditions. I would say a forecasted high temperature of 9-10 degrees C less than today would be a drastic difference.
Also completely different to what Shovlin said in interviews:

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chrisc90 wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 21:56
vanburin wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 21:53
GrizzleBoy wrote:
29 Jul 2022, 21:39
We could be seeing these times looking out of place due to cars being setup expecting a wet track.

Maybe things will be more status quo come tomorrow
This is pretty much exactly what Russell indicated after FP2. Let's see what tomorrow brings.

Although he agreed it was not a smooth day for Mercedes, Russell explained that the team experimented a bit to try and get to the bottom of its struggles given the expecting rain on Saturday.

"The conditions for Sunday are going to be drastically different, so we were trying quite a few things with the car, using it as a bit of a test session because to be honest," Russell said.

"You can try and optimise a few things for today, but there's no use of that, it's all for the rest of the weekend.

"Even though it was a very tough day, I think it's been a productive one."


https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hami ... /10345303/
Thats odd, the weather for Sunday looks pretty good, with only Saturday looking wet at current. Clutching at straws for the poor show they put on today more than likely and blaming the weather 2 days ahead. #PR63

https://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing ... spx?sday=2
Because mercedes have a habit of blaming future weather forecasts for poor free practice sessions 🙄