Would cure the flexing too
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With the 2022 rule change on the horizon bargeboards will no longer be a feature of F1 cars, but what are they, how do they work, and will F1’s designers be able to replicate their function in 2022?
Would cure the flexing too
You been reading my posts??
Not seen it posted before, but apologies if you have already posted this.
That is a totally reasonable position, especially given that starting next race they have a new sensor in the cars.
At this point I put zero trust in what Horners says. RB thinks (but doesn't actually know) they might loose performance relative to others. That is what his comment suggests.JordanMugen wrote: ↑30 Jul 2022, 06:01It seems so. Horner seems to think it is a major regulation overhaul on 2023 cars that are already being designed, and seems to be against the changes.
The sensor is bound to be controversial. You see once car bouncing but they're in the limit, you don't see the other bouncing but they aren't in the limit, and such. The raised sidewall seems like a complete solution.
I don’t trust what Horner says either, however in this case I agree with him. Mercedes need to change their side pod concept to one that provides a properly supported floor.mzso wrote: ↑30 Jul 2022, 21:59At this point I put zero trust in what Horners says. RB thinks (but doesn't actually know) they might loose performance relative to others. That is what his comment suggests.JordanMugen wrote: ↑30 Jul 2022, 06:01It seems so. Horner seems to think it is a major regulation overhaul on 2023 cars that are already being designed, and seems to be against the changes.
I have my doubts whether it would take the teams much effort to modify the floor to the new sidewall height.The sensor is bound to be controversial. You see once car bouncing but they're in the limit, you don't see the other bouncing but they aren't in the limit, and such. The raised sidewall seems like a complete solution.
The FIA probably should have made the new rule earlier though.
Well, poorer teams now have the same development budget. So it's a matter of choice what you'd want carry over. However I think the cost is overblown (by Horner mainly), since the floor/sidepods seem to be the main distinguishing parts of a car, that is what they would want to redesign first. Also Haas had no trouble completely changing the whole sidepod design within half a season.n_anirudh wrote: ↑30 Jul 2022, 23:36Will it affect the *poorer* teams who could have carried parts etc over the next season ?
Secondly, how do the teams know that raising the floor will help? Has there been research carried out and data shared by fia/fom?
Thinking out aloud her: Why is a 10mm change acceptable and not 25mm? Whatever the increase, new aero tests will have to be conducted unless they have accurate 0D models that can predict such changes ?
Well it already should be forced on them by stricter flex tests.
It's strange that people usually complain loudly for physical barriers instead of monitoring and penalties but now most seem to be arguing for the very same thing. I guess Horner is very effective.
Most comments I heard was that it would ease the symptoms but wouldn't at all solve the problem.
The only “penalties” I’m in favour of, are forcing a team with excessive bouncing to address it - or risk being disqualified.mzso wrote: ↑31 Jul 2022, 08:15Well it already should be forced on them by stricter flex tests.It's strange that people usually complain loudly for physical barriers instead of monitoring and penalties but now most seem to be arguing for the very same thing. I guess Horner is very effective.
Most comments I heard was that it would ease the symptoms but wouldn't at all solve the problem.
I think the FIA did the right thing, but did it too late. If it came out with the regulation in may the teams protecting their interests would have had to find a lamer argument.