2022 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 29 - 31

[TimW]

Ferrari had the speed, their mistake was responding to the pit stops of soft runners Russell and Verstappen. Doing a short stint on mediums messed up their strategy. Lewis made his first stop on lap 30, the optimal for a medium medium soft strategy.

Their mistake is that they were scared to lose. If they had optimised their stints they could have had the 1-2 they were looking for.

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In hindsight, maybe a start on softs would have resulted in a better chance to work around it, but not sure what they could have done differently apart from that today. After a M-M start, no matter what tyres they would have taken for the final stint, it was going to be hopeless.

Don't make me laugh. They could have made the opposite decision at every given point to what they actually did, and they would have finished in front. If they left Leclerc out the same way Hamilton stayed, he would have been at least where Hamilton finished.

Sainz basically did the same Hamilton did, was ahead before the stop, and still finished behind. So it could have been a slightly better result for Leclerc for sure, but it would have been bad as well, and people would scream "why didn't they go for hards".

[mzso]

In complete hindsight and after seeing everything, I hope people are not too harsh on Ferrari's strategy team for today specifically because there was not really anything they could have done. The only thing you could really fault them for was either starting on Mediums or pitting Leclerc again for Softs at the end

Agree Ferrari just had no speed today. no matter what strategy they would employ they were just too slow in all situations.
We were all expecting this to be their track, guess that is why we are referred to as armchair experts and not experts.

The weather didn't help. For years, Ferrari cars seem to like warmer temperatutres.

They're just trying to explain away their pathetic failure.
Besides the car celebrates the high temperatures with fireworks.

[chrisc90]

British media media comes across as a pretty vile and sour towards Horner about his teams in in victory.
Seems to be hanging their hopes on the fictitious "TD"
disgusting nation come to think of it?
Guess the will be in for some more disappointment.!

Just the producers. Sky F1 team love Mercedes and Lewis/George. Always great when RB and Max shut them up with the results.

[Redragon]

Ferrari strategy as reliability is so bad that Perez is nearly second on the standings with such a not great year too.

[ringo]

Why the saltiness against the Brits?
I did not sense any kind of bias. Lewis and George were the dark horses for the race, and were the only two of the top 6 cars that were doing stuff to spoil the party at the front.
The commentators have a duty to hype the race down to the last lap.

And no redbull is not shutting them up with results. Redbull is a British team. In fact redbull are expected to defend their championship this year.
I really don't see the need for the anti UK sentiment for such a good race today.

[Hammerfist]

In hindsight, maybe a start on softs would have resulted in a better chance to work around it, but not sure what they could have done differently apart from that today. After a M-M start, no matter what tyres they would have taken for the final stint, it was going to be hopeless.

Don't make me laugh. They could have made the opposite decision at every given point to what they actually did, and they would have finished in front. If they left Leclerc out the same way Hamilton stayed, he would have been at least where Hamilton finished.

Sainz basically did the same Hamilton did, was ahead before the stop, and still finished behind. So it could have been a slightly better result for Leclerc for sure, but it would have been bad as well, and people would scream "why didn't they go for hards".

Leclerc should not have pitted at the time he did for hards. Everyone knew the hards would be awful. He could have mirrored Hamilton's strategy and he would have won imo. Le'ts not talk about Sainz, as he was once again nowhere close to Leclerc's pace during the race. Just another open goal miss by Ferrari. It has been an embarrassing season for them on so many levels.

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Ferrari strategy as reliability is so bad that Perez is nearly second on the standings with such a not great year too.

losing ground against Russell as well, though. The way he is going at the moment, it'll be hard to keep the Mercedes' behind in the standings.

[chrisc90]

Why the saltiness against the Brits?
I did not sense any kind of bias. Lewis and George were the dark horses for the race, and were the only two of the top 6 cars that were doing stuff to spoil the party at the front.
The commentators have a duty to hype the race down to the last lap.

And no redbull is not shutting them up with results. Redbull is a British team. In fact redbull are expected to defend their championship this year.
I really don't see the need for the anti UK sentiment for such a good race today.

Its clear to see Sky are against Red Bull. Jeez, just look at herberts comments on Max after his interview on the F1 show.

[dialtone]

From P10 to P1 is no small feat, and Hamilton alse capped it with a great drive. Not feeling particularly rewarded lately with waking up early in the morning...

Top 10 Gap chart

Pretty clearly there were 6 cars ahead, and everywhere else pretty far behind. Looks like pace wise here it was the top 6, then Lando Norris, then everyone else.
So let's zoom in the top 6 only.

Top 6 gap chart


And Top 6 lap times:


Alright so let's look into it:
- Perez and Max had basically the same pace through the race, uncanny how similar they were through it. I would probably use this to show that at the end Max was managing, but that's no surprise.
- Sainz today had no pace on any tire, critically he was not fast enough to challenge Russell in the first stint and then was pitted early by Ferrari, presumably to leave charles in front as Ferrari probably through that a switch of places was too punishing, although I think this squandered the supposed advantage of starting on the medium tire and going long on the first stint and create a tire differential.
- Sainz also wasn't fast on the soft tire at the end of the race where he lost further positions to Hamilton. He also wasn't helped by 2 slow pit stops from Ferrari, although that's not the reason why he finished 4th, he was simply slower today.
- Leclerc on Mediums was the fastest car on track, he always gained time on everyone (you can see his red line is always inclined downwards, meaning faster than Verstappen, and further than the others meaning faster than the rest. Even in the first stint, after 8 laps he was already faster than Sainz and equally fast as Russell. Leclerc was also about as fast as Hamilton on the Soft tire, Ham was a bit faster at the start of his stint, but slower after passing Sainz. The hard stint in the middle was a nightmare where Leclerc lost 10s and an additional pit stop.
- Russell had great defense from LEC, was reasonably fast in the 1st stint, at least fast enough to not be bothered by Sainz that much, but overall in the race he just wasn't that fast, struggled quite a bit on the mediums. His gap line is just losing time through the race.
- Hamilton struggled quite a bit in the first stint, was on slightly faster pace than VER in the second stint and then went long on the mediums with Sainz where he was slightly faster than Sainz again, but both were losing heaps of time to Max, and then had a great last stint on the soft putting in the fastest lap of the race and finishing 2nd. Great race.
- Max quickly cleared the slower cars in front of him in a couple of laps, and was 4th before lap 10 even started. At this point the crucial moment in his race was Sainz not passing Russell, this happened just at the right time because it allowed him to start his last stint on the mediums where his pace was again in line with Perez but he could pass Leclerc with ease and then march on to win this. Great job with the aggressive strategy.

I don't know what 1-lap situation to look into, the race was pretty full of overtakes and pretty clean overall.

I can't explain why Ferrari chose to go with the Hard tire on Leclerc, I think their proper mistake was not switching to the softs in the 2nd stint and freeing them up with tire choice later on with LEC. They also weren't helped by Sainz being slow, the car probably wasn't as good, like it struggled yesterday in quali, it struggled today in the race. I still don't why they went with the hards though, I think the strategy team in Ferrari has trouble understanding and updating the tire performance over the race.

Not a rewarding way to wake up at 5.40am, but congrats to Max and RBR.

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Leclerc should not have pitted at the time he did for hards. Everyone knew the hards would be awful. He could have mirrored Hamilton's strategy and he would have won imo.

maybe, yes, but it would likely have meant dropping to 3rd or 4th first, then having to overtake them again on new tyres. I can understand why they didn't want to risk that on a track like Hungary.

[morefirejules08]

George not mincing his words in the pen.

[renault rs26]

Carlos was slow on every stint, it doesn't mean much saying he failed to make progress with the soft.

Yeah, checking the data now and LEC was as fast as HAM on the softs. Ferrari strategists...

but that would have been 2xSoft. No way he could have done 32 laps on used softs.

Leclerc started on medium, Hamilton started on medium. If Ferrari gave him Hamilton's strategy he could overtake Max on track and win.

[NicoS]

Why the saltiness against the Brits?
I did not sense any kind of bias. Lewis and George were the dark horses for the race, and were the only two of the top 6 cars that were doing stuff to spoil the party at the front.
The commentators have a duty to hype the race down to the last lap.

And no redbull is not shutting them up with results. Redbull is a British team. In fact redbull are expected to defend their championship this year.
I really don't see the need for the anti UK sentiment for such a good race today.

Yes, That is why I mention it, I also do not understand the saltiness towards Horner and what is essentially a british team by the sky "crew" during post race interview. They were actually pretty aggressive, downplaying the victory drive from P10 to P1 as " due to rivals strategy mistakes"... so everyone from P1 to P9 made strategy mistakes?
Then I would say well done to RB! the only team with winning strategy!

[NicoS]

Why the saltiness against the Brits?
I did not sense any kind of bias. Lewis and George were the dark horses for the race, and were the only two of the top 6 cars that were doing stuff to spoil the party at the front.
The commentators have a duty to hype the race down to the last lap.

And no redbull is not shutting them up with results. Redbull is a British team. In fact redbull are expected to defend their championship this year.
I really don't see the need for the anti UK sentiment for such a good race today.

Yes, That is why I mention it, I also do not understand the saltiness towards Horner and what is essentially a british team by the sky "crew" during post race interview. They were actually pretty aggressive, downplaying the victory drive from P10 to P1 as " due to rivals strategy mistakes"... so everyone from P1 to P9 made strategy mistakes?
Then I would say well done to RB! the only team with winning strategy!