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[pursue_one's]

Lewis:" Which is the difficult thing because like there’s potential in this car but we’ve had to de-power it to stop it from bouncing,
but we’ve had good reliability. But we can’t forever rely on reliability being the thing to keep us on the podium so we really need performance. "

Heikki and Lewis: Old stablemates sat down for a chat in Hungary

[Sidiamal]

The tidbit that they had to depower the car is interesting. Lines up with some media reports that Mercedes have been running the PU in a conservation mode for the first half of the season.

[Big Tea]

The tidbit that they had to depower the car is interesting. Lines up with some media reports that Mercedes have been running the PU in a conservation mode for the first half of the season.

Looks ominous for when they do cure it.

[Sidiamal]

The tidbit that they had to depower the car is interesting. Lines up with some media reports that Mercedes have been running the PU in a conservation mode for the first half of the season.

Looks ominous for when they do cure it.

Not that much I don't think, the PU hasn't been the determining factor so far. It should be no more than a tenth or two and the gap is bit bigger than that.

I will say though, on the topic of the PU, it seems inevitable now that engine penalties will have to come. Lewis has already taken on a new MGU-K which is not of the upgraded spec permitted pre-freeze, so he'll have to take the penalty in Spa or Monza, and they may opt to change out the entirety of the PU into the Spec 3 they're allegedly preparing.

[Big Tea]

The tidbit that they had to depower the car is interesting. Lines up with some media reports that Mercedes have been running the PU in a conservation mode for the first half of the season.

Looks ominous for when they do cure it.

Not that much I don't think, the PU hasn't been the determining factor so far. It should be no more than a tenth or two and the gap is bit bigger than that.

I will say though, on the topic of the PU, it seems inevitable now that engine penalties will have to come. Lewis has already taken on a new MGU-K which is not of the upgraded spec permitted pre-freeze, so he'll have to take the penalty in Spa or Monza, and they may opt to change out the entirety of the PU into the Spec 3 they're allegedly preparing.

It does mean they can use the 'extra' power for other things, like downforce, or if they can 'majic it up' traction out the corner

[mkay]

The tidbit that they had to depower the car is interesting. Lines up with some media reports that Mercedes have been running the PU in a conservation mode for the first half of the season.

I don’t think he’s referring to the PU, but rather the floor. It’s been reported earlier this year that they’ve effectively had to take off downforce from the floor to stop the porpoising.

That’s probably why they aren’t as competitive through fast corners (as seen in France or Hungary), but have a more stable, nimble car under braking and through slower corners.

[PlatinumZealot]

On local television the commentators said that Mercedes came up with floor solutions without being tested in the wind tunnel.. so great efforts are being made. Does anyone know more about this aspect?

Budget cap is the problem. If it werent for the cap they cpuld calibrate their wind tunnel model more frequently to match with the frequency of oscillations they see on track. They can't do this on the cheap. So likely they are going straight from CFD to manufacturing to track testing.

[PlatinumZealot]

Does anyone know whether Mercs made a discovery on Friday evening after FP2 as Russell was alluding to? Have they discovered how to extract quali performance from the W13 now and any ideas what it might be?

It's left just suspension settings or brake duct really. Not much else we see visually.

[Cocles]

Does anyone know whether Mercs made a discovery on Friday evening after FP2 as Russell was alluding to? Have they discovered how to extract quali performance from the W13 now and any ideas what it might be?

It seems to be something with the setup. Toto referred to it as well in an interview. The overarching story seems to be that they've tried a lot of setup directions over the season that haven't worked, but after a very despondent, late Friday night, they tried a new direction and the W13 liked it *a lot*.

[Pat Pending]

The tidbit that they had to depower the car is interesting. Lines up with some media reports that Mercedes have been running the PU in a conservation mode for the first half of the season.

I don’t think he’s referring to the PU, but rather the floor. It’s been reported earlier this year that they’ve effectively had to take off downforce from the floor to stop the porpoising.

That’s probably why they aren’t as competitive through fast corners (as seen in France or Hungary), but have a more stable, nimble car under braking and through slower corners.

Agreed

[LM10]

The tidbit that they had to depower the car is interesting. Lines up with some media reports that Mercedes have been running the PU in a conservation mode for the first half of the season.

He’s obviously not referring to the PU. He’s talking about taking off performance from the car’s aerodynamic potential to stop it from bouncing. In short, taking off downforce.

[AR3-GP]

Depower the floor, as others have said. Hamilton made reference to this in France.

[PlatinumZealot]

He means the floor was too peaky.

[ringo]

They need to fix their suspension and re power it!

[Morteza]