2022 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 29 - 31

[Big Tea]

That is a relatively new development. Since Silverstone that is allowed. The why. Well. Like for like. So reducing the chance on a DNS when you have any doubt.

Right, it what’s to stop teams having more of a qualy engine and then a different one for the race, seems a bit bizarre that there’s no penalty to change a whole power unit.

I think its only engines from the 'pool' not new

[chrisc90]

It might raise a few eyebrows if your always swapping engines over after quali and before the race. Then again, Merc had disposable engines last year so guess it works (albeit they never swapped them under parc ferme).

Be interesting to know what extra performance you could get from a 'quali engine' of identical spec components though.

[Sieper]

Less mileage on the race day unit.

[Sieper]

Well we can wait for Spa and see if RB and Ferrari suddenly lose pace.
If yes then QED, if not then GR will need to eat his words.

Could be the running order is exactly the same at Spa cause if the planned chassis upgrade (weight loss and performance) + ERS upgrade is put on the RB18 and the alleged flexi floor is not it could even itself out. And as for Ferrari, if the engine reliability fix + ERS upgrade is ready their PU could be turned back up.

Well. I guess then Ferrari and RBR are always proven to cheat.

Scenario 1 Mercedes is closer. See, they cheated
Scenario 2 nothing changes. Yeah they made up for it in other ways, they still cheated
Scenario 3 Mercedes falls further behind. They not only made it for up, they overcompensated, but they still cheated. Or the Regs change was not demanding enough, they continue to cheat.

In any case, 4 times they cheat. Because they are faster then Mercedes. They must have.

There is zero proof of this all. It is all Merc talk and they are simply behind, and closing in imho, that is all we know.

[chrisc90]

I still think they took the 3rd PU because they want to run whole new components at Spa and start from the back of the grid, since its the best remaining track for them to make up places from the back. That was they can have a top 5 (possibly above if others dont have a good weekend)

[RZS10]

It might raise a few eyebrows if your always swapping engines over after quali and before the race. Then again, Merc had disposable engines last year so guess it works (albeit they never swapped them under parc ferme).

Be interesting to know what extra performance you could get from a 'quali engine' of identical spec components though.

In the end they'd have to run the same mappings from Q to the race so they couldn't crank it up in Q anyways, the only differentiator would be the potential power loss through wear and that's probably not worth the hassle (?)

[dxpetrov]

I still think they took the 3rd PU because they want to run whole new components at Spa and start from the back of the grid, since its the best remaining track for them to make up places from the back. That was they can have a top 5 (possibly above if others dont have a good weekend)

No way they gonna do a grid drop at spa. They want to win that race FGS! And especially Monza! Until they secure the title, they not gonna take 4th PU.

[Sieper]

It might raise a few eyebrows if your always swapping engines over after quali and before the race. Then again, Merc had disposable engines last year so guess it works (albeit they never swapped them under parc ferme).

Be interesting to know what extra performance you could get from a 'quali engine' of identical spec components though.

In the end they'd have to run the same mappings from Q to the race so they couldn't crank it up in Q anyways, the only differentiator would be the potential power loss through wear and that's probably not worth the hassle (?)

You can run 1 unit exclusively on race day, putting less mileage on it, potentially preventing an issue. I believe this rule chance was on request of Ferrari and all agreed.

[chrisc90]

And the Aramco rankings look like the drivers were picked out of a hat. I mean who on earth comes up with these things?

[Chuckjr]

Sticking a car that should not be on pole, on pole, is really quite an accomplishment.

A car is either fast enough for pole or it isn't. No one can make a car go faster than it is physically capable of. George did a great job getting the car to give him the performance it has.

Pro tip: check some F1 history and examine the careers of Senna and Schumacher. You may learn some new insights about racing, and the speed a driver can bring to a car. This generation has been tainted with an unbeatable car for a decade, and fans simply don’t realize what a good driver is anymore. You’re welcome.

[Just_a_fan]

Sticking a car that should not be on pole, on pole, is really quite an accomplishment.

A car is either fast enough for pole or it isn't. No one can make a car go faster than it is physically capable of. George did a great job getting the car to give him the performance it has.

Pro tip: check some F1 history and examine the careers of Senna and Schumacher. You may learn some new insights about racing, and the speed a driver can bring to a car. This generation has been tainted with an unbeatable car for a decade, and fans simply don’t realize what a good driver is anymore. You’re welcome.

Not even Senna and Schumacher can make a car lap faster than it is physically capable of going. That's called reality. You're welcome.

[Just_a_fan]

And the Aramco rankings look like the drivers were picked out of a hat. I mean who on earth comes up with these things?

How it works
Our five-judge panel assess each driver after every Grand Prix and score them out of 10 according to their performance across the weekend – taking machinery out of the equation

Our experts’ scores are then averaged out to produce a race score – with those scores then tallied up across the season on our overall Power Rankings Leaderboard

Perhaps if Max hadn't spun, he'd have been a clear 1st instead of first equal.

[Big Tea]

A car is either fast enough for pole or it isn't. No one can make a car go faster than it is physically capable of. George did a great job getting the car to give him the performance it has.

Pro tip: check some F1 history and examine the careers of Senna and Schumacher. You may learn some new insights about racing, and the speed a driver can bring to a car. This generation has been tainted with an unbeatable car for a decade, and fans simply don’t realize what a good driver is anymore. You’re welcome.

Not even Senna and Schumacher can make a car lap faster than it is physically capable of going. That's called reality. You're welcome.

What they did is get (close to) 100% consistently. Like driving 55 pole laps.

[Tvetovnato]

You outdrive your teammate, never your car. Simple as that.

[Chuckjr]

A car is either fast enough for pole or it isn't. No one can make a car go faster than it is physically capable of. George did a great job getting the car to give him the performance it has.

Pro tip: check some F1 history and examine the careers of Senna and Schumacher. You may learn some new insights about racing, and the speed a driver can bring to a car. This generation has been tainted with an unbeatable car for a decade, and fans simply don’t realize what a good driver is anymore. You’re welcome.

Not even Senna and Schumacher can make a car lap faster than it is physically capable of going. That's called reality. You're welcome.

Michael Schumacher
Ayrton Senna
You’re welcome.