2022 Oracle | Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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langedweil wrote:
28 Aug 2022, 04:08
organic wrote:
28 Aug 2022, 03:28
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... direktive/

AMuS report no new lighter chassis for RB yet.
Hate that annoying paywall ..
Thnx anyway !

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Where does this "Red Bull had tire wear issues on Friday" come from, btw? AmuS mentioned it several times over the past days, but Perez did no longrun at all in FP2, and Verstappen only three laps:

12 1:51.608
13 1:52.055
14 1:51.938

Then it started to rain.

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Some information about the new chassis:
https://racingnews365.com/the-secret-of ... ll-chassis

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Wouter wrote:
27 Aug 2022, 22:58
Alexf1 wrote:
27 Aug 2022, 20:06
Wouter wrote:
27 Aug 2022, 19:21

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I posted this before. He has the new ERS system. Why else would they take a new PU this weekend?! Read what Marko said.
Horner also said that without it, they would have enough PU's in the pool for the rest of the saison.
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So Red Bull has good reasons for optimism, despite the Verstappen penalty. This should also be the last, Marko hopes:
"Theoretically, that should be enough." For the remaining races, Red Bull plans to get by with the engines already used at Verstappen.

https://www.motorsport-magazin.com/form ... elgien-gp/
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Nothing is mentioned about the new spec ERS. Only that with the current extra PU elements they can take Max to the end of the season. He has taken these before the hom deadline so they can very well be current spec. just to be safe.
He doesn't have to take them this year. Only 1 RBPT car has to according to the rules.
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Teams have to introduce the upgrade into at least one car by the first event AFTER the deadline which is Monza.

If all the cars would have to take a penalty then they have until 5 events after the deadline to introduce it into one car.

All RBPT cars would have to take a penalty so they technically have until COTA to introduce the upgrade into one car.

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4.3 In order to be registered, a specification upgrade must be used by at least one car powered by the Power Unit Manufacturer no later than:

• the first Event following the deadline specified in the second table of Appendix 3 of the Technical Regulations if at least one car would incur no penalty under art. 28.3 of the Sporting Regulations.

• the fifth Event following the deadline specified in the second table of Appendix 3 of the Technical Regulations if all cars would incur a penalty under art. 28.3 of the Sporting Regulations.

From the technical regulations for 2022 issue 12
Thanks for confirming that only 1 RBPT car has to take it by race 1-5 after the hom deadline in order for it to be registered. Read it there too recently. As Max has now taken enough parts into his pool before the hom deadline he can run till the end of the season.
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doesn't this mean Perez needs to take the upgrade in Monza, at the latest? He has only used one CE so far.

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search wrote:
28 Aug 2022, 08:52
doesn't this mean Perez needs to take the upgrade in Monza, at the latest? He has only used one CE so far.
Yes. But maybe the CE will not be updated. Or maybe you're allowed to introduce the different components of the updated ERS individually.

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There were bringing new shock absorbers/dampers here? It was unbelievable to see how VER was running through Blanchimont and Bus stop chicane in FP1/FP2 ... what a flat car/aero platform they achieved to do ... no bouncing/porpoising, no bleeping/odd movements and most of all how much damping this RB18 has now compared to other cars around ...
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does perez have the new ERS? Car was exceptional today

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Only Max and by that pace difference, it seems like he has the new spec after all...

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Jaisonas wrote:
28 Aug 2022, 16:06
Only Max and by that pace difference, it seems like he has the new spec after all...
Perez does have a different floor also.. but yeah the new spec ERS might be something special

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If this is the new ERS then it’s going to be a very lovely few years ahead for red bull when it’s all locked in.

Top job by Honda if it is. And we have the lighter tub to look forward to
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Jaisonas wrote:
28 Aug 2022, 16:06
Only Max and by that pace difference, it seems like he has the new spec after all...
Everyone else in the pitlane hope he does.
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Big Tea wrote:
28 Aug 2022, 16:46
Jaisonas wrote:
28 Aug 2022, 16:06
Only Max and by that pace difference, it seems like he has the new spec after all...
Everyone else in the pitlane hope he does.
The other teams will hope he doesn’t if that’s the pace advantage it gives.

Redbull and the team will hope it’s fitted. What day is the deadline?
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
28 Aug 2022, 16:49
Big Tea wrote:
28 Aug 2022, 16:46
Jaisonas wrote:
28 Aug 2022, 16:06
Only Max and by that pace difference, it seems like he has the new spec after all...
Everyone else in the pitlane hope he does.
The other teams will hope he doesn’t if that’s the pace advantage it gives.

Redbull and the team will hope it’s fitted. What day is the deadline?
If he has not already got it, it will be on top of today
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If he does take a new version he will be subject to a penalty? Correct? So if there is no penalties relating to the ERS/CE then we can safely assume today they implemented the new system
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
28 Aug 2022, 17:02
If he does take a new version he will be subject to a penalty? Correct? So if there is no penalties relating to the ERS/CE then we can safely assume today they implemented the new system
He will have a penalty if he takes a new PU element because he's over the limit of allowed penalty free PU elements. We haven't got official confirmation yet about the use/introduction of the new spec ERS.