Revised in the sense only cosmetic changes or any significant upgrade ?fritticaldi wrote: ↑07 Sep 2022, 00:20Ferrari will have a revised livery for Monza. The drivers suits and gear will also change. The color is Giallo Modena.
Revised in the sense only cosmetic changes or any significant upgrade ?fritticaldi wrote: ↑07 Sep 2022, 00:20Ferrari will have a revised livery for Monza. The drivers suits and gear will also change. The color is Giallo Modena.
The performance loss might be related to the engine. Since the last engine failure, there seems to be some race pace loss.
Fernando Alonso, the GOAT of F1, preffers understeery cars.mendis wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 10:53Do you know almost all the great drivers likes pointy and oversteery car? Equally, they can adapt if the car isn't up to their comfort and still get the best possible results and consistently beat their team mates. There is more time to be gained with an oversteery car than an understeery one. If a driver is unable to adapt to an oversteery car, then it's a problem with the driver. Blaming the car suiting his team mate is a pointless argument.Alonsismo wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 02:01leclerc pace advantage is only due to the car fitting him better.
Leclerc prefers oversteer cars
Sainz prefers understeer cars
Ferrari NEEDS a car with a better rear train and neutral balance because the actual car, slides a lot on the rear and this is costing a lot of performance on race pace and making both drivers prone to errors spining like the early season spins of sainz and most recent leclerc spins.
This year's pirelli fronts are suspectible for sliding and have less grip at the front and known to be understeery. Pirelli has already mentioned that they are going to cure it to provide more grip next year! If Sainz cannot adapt, then he is going down the Ricciardo way.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/pire ... /10329084/
Pirelli plans to introduce a stronger front tyre next year to reduce the understeer that a number of Formula 1 drivers, including Max Verstappen, don’t like with the current cars.
Livery change. Car will probably have upgrades circuit related. So RW wing from spa, and probably ICE turned on more.Shal_Leg16 wrote: ↑07 Sep 2022, 05:12Revised in the sense only cosmetic changes or any significant upgrade ?fritticaldi wrote: ↑07 Sep 2022, 00:20Ferrari will have a revised livery for Monza. The drivers suits and gear will also change. The color is Giallo Modena.
Bare in mind on that occasion that it was the Sprint Weekend, where the cars were locked in from FP1; Could've been the case that Ferrari hit the ground running with a better base setup compared to Red Bull, so they were always going to be behind being the case... Stupid rule...Xyz22 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 23:23RB was supposedly going to dominate in Austria. F1 is a very complex sport and it's difficult to predict what it's going to happen. Ferrari looked dominant in Hungary FP sessions with very high track temp while struggled more in the race with much lower temps. It can happen, and still the car was competitive for the win.
On the other hand, in SPA it was over 1s slower than the RB in every condition over the weekend and in Zandvoort around 0.5s slower than RB and 0.3s slower than Mercedes. Again, the impact of the TD is absolutely clear. There is no upgrade that would give such an advantage from a track to another. The F1 75 simply lost a ton of performance.
Special livery means only one thing: double DNFcodetower wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 19:11Ferrari set to run some yellow livery for Monza to celebrate their 75 years in F1.
https://f1i.com/news/453418-ferrari-set ... monza.html
While Fernando does like an understeery car as he says, he is one of the best drivers when it comes to adapting to cars. So don't mistake that an understeer car is better just because Fernando likes it. He is a driver that could hack the steering hard to put a bit more grip in the front, which makes him manipulate the car better. Not every driver can do that. Look at this video and you hear most drivers preferrring oversteer and KMag and Stroll say oversteer is faster. KMag also say, understeer is "easier" to drive. Easier, doesn't mean faster.Alonsismo wrote: ↑07 Sep 2022, 09:45Fernando Alonso, the GOAT of F1, preffers understeery cars.mendis wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 10:53Do you know almost all the great drivers likes pointy and oversteery car? Equally, they can adapt if the car isn't up to their comfort and still get the best possible results and consistently beat their team mates. There is more time to be gained with an oversteery car than an understeery one. If a driver is unable to adapt to an oversteery car, then it's a problem with the driver. Blaming the car suiting his team mate is a pointless argument.Alonsismo wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 02:01leclerc pace advantage is only due to the car fitting him better.
Leclerc prefers oversteer cars
Sainz prefers understeer cars
Ferrari NEEDS a car with a better rear train and neutral balance because the actual car, slides a lot on the rear and this is costing a lot of performance on race pace and making both drivers prone to errors spining like the early season spins of sainz and most recent leclerc spins.
This year's pirelli fronts are suspectible for sliding and have less grip at the front and known to be understeery. Pirelli has already mentioned that they are going to cure it to provide more grip next year! If Sainz cannot adapt, then he is going down the Ricciardo way.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/pire ... /10329084/
Pirelli plans to introduce a stronger front tyre next year to reduce the understeer that a number of Formula 1 drivers, including Max Verstappen, don’t like with the current cars.
that argument does not make sense.
2022 ferrari, is an oversteery car that has a very light rear and is prone to spin. This also make the car to have more tyre deg and overheat the tyres.
and not, an oversteery car is no faster than an understeery car, red bulls from 2010 to 2013, were understeery, and they are one of the greatest f1 cars ever made.
From a very high-level view, oversteering cars should be faster anyways. I always think about it like this: racing cars (at least in F1) gain lap time in the turns. Therefore a car which can turn faster will equate to better lap time. Oversteer turns better, and the limit of an oversteering car is almost always the skill of the driver. The limit of an understeering car is almost always its literal inability to turn (physics, lack of front grip, whatever you want to call it). The best way to make an understeering car faster is to induce oversteer, ironically. This is what Alonso does with his attacking steering inputs.mendis wrote: ↑08 Sep 2022, 07:56While Fernando does like an understeery car as he says, he is one of the best drivers when it comes to adapting to cars. So don't mistake that an understeer car is better just because Fernando likes it. He is a driver that could hack the steering hard to put a bit more grip in the front, which makes him manipulate the car better. Not every driver can do that. Look at this video and you hear most drivers preferrring oversteer and KMag and Stroll say oversteer is faster. KMag also say, understeer is "easier" to drive. Easier, doesn't mean faster.Alonsismo wrote: ↑07 Sep 2022, 09:45Fernando Alonso, the GOAT of F1, preffers understeery cars.mendis wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 10:53Do you know almost all the great drivers likes pointy and oversteery car? Equally, they can adapt if the car isn't up to their comfort and still get the best possible results and consistently beat their team mates. There is more time to be gained with an oversteery car than an understeery one. If a driver is unable to adapt to an oversteery car, then it's a problem with the driver. Blaming the car suiting his team mate is a pointless argument.
This year's pirelli fronts are suspectible for sliding and have less grip at the front and known to be understeery. Pirelli has already mentioned that they are going to cure it to provide more grip next year! If Sainz cannot adapt, then he is going down the Ricciardo way.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/pire ... /10329084/
that argument does not make sense.
2022 ferrari, is an oversteery car that has a very light rear and is prone to spin. This also make the car to have more tyre deg and overheat the tyres.
and not, an oversteery car is no faster than an understeery car, red bulls from 2010 to 2013, were understeery, and they are one of the greatest f1 cars ever made.
(Watch from 1:00)
Oh, what could have been!jagunx51 wrote: ↑08 Sep 2022, 13:56https://i.imgur.com/js2Iyj7.jpeg
https://www.instagram.com/nurge.motorsport/