diffuser wrote: ↑19 Sep 2022, 19:22
InsomniRacer wrote: ↑18 Sep 2022, 16:07
djos wrote: ↑09 Sep 2022, 09:15
The team lost 4th and ruined a winning drivers reputation by not designing a car that handles the way Daniel and Lando both asked for, and by being too conservative with their design!
You are categorically wrong. More posts trying to defend a driver who has been let go by the team. It's time to move on. Riccardo has a serious flaw and that's lack of adaptability. The sooner you realise that the better for you and people reading this forum. Switch your full attention to Piastri and hope he does better than Riccardo for the teams sake.
Riccardo will never go down as one of the greats because of this flaw. All the true greats have adaptability. Alonso most of the time hailed as the best of this generation largely because of this even though he has other flaws. No one wants Ricciardo because of this flaw as it's too much of a risk in case their car has something he can't overcome.
What part of this don't you get? It's very simple.
I'm not defending djos's post... I just don't think That there is a standard test out there that we can give drivers that will measure adaptability.
Truth is there is no way to measure adaptability that I know of. If you put Hamilton or Max in the seat next to Lando will they be able to drive the 2022 McLaren faster than Lando or even Ricciardo if given the right amount of time? Maybe if you put Lando and Ricciardo in RB18 for 6 months Ricciardo will do to Lando what's being done to Riccardo at McLaren.
I know people will say "OH yeah Lando will out drive Ricciardo in any car" but is there imperial evidence of that ? Those same people probably predicted that Ricciardo would out drive Lando before he came to McLaren.
Very good point. Lando still has not driven any other F1 car besides a McLaren, so how would we even know "how adaptable" he is? I sort of get where djos is coming from (although I think it's a little more nuanced than that); Ricciardo's struggles are well-documented, but Lando hasn't been the most complimentary of these recent McLaren cars either (in terms of handling characteristics). If you want to actually WIN championships, your life is a lot easier if your car's handling characteristics suit your drivers' natural style. RB is clear evidence of this.
In fact, let's use RB as analogy. At the start of 2022, the top 4 drivers were fairly evenly matched. As the RB car has developed towards Max's style, Perez and the Ferraris are still usually close, but Max is in another league. Who's to say that Lando (or whoever else) can only extract the same performance relative to their car as Perez, and if the car suited the drivers' styles, the car wouldn't be magically half a second per lap faster? This is entirely possible, even if the gulf between NOR and RIC would imply that Lando is extracting close to the maximum.
If RB had a Perez-Albon lineup with the current car, the car would look a lot less dominant, even though Perez and Albon have both independently shown they are capable drivers.
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