An all French and all German line-up is irrelevant outside of relatively small national car markets which are shrinking markets and the accelerator has just been pressed on the shrinkage.Zynerji wrote: ↑02 Oct 2022, 17:36As we've discussed in a previous thread, it's about the $. If an all-German lineup is possible, and you can measure the success of the all-French Alpine lineup, it may be a better marketing exercise overall.
Toto has spoken about the billions of marketing dollar value out of F1. Some will not care if they finish 9th in the championship. If the initial hype, and the photographs keep circulating, the math may say that is the optimal strategy for ROI. It would be very interesting to see these numbers.
Zynerji, you wrote the above quote in another thread. You don't appear to be able to keep a consistent train of thought between threads. So you actually think a team who doesn't care whether they finish 9th or not will actively develop they car and add into the IP pool or do you think it's more likely they'll be leeches and minimise their development spend?
You completely ignored my previous post. If the FIA understood the damage photogrammetry could do to top team participation you'd surely understand why your idea is no different.
There's nothing wrong with having an open IP pool for a racing competition but it wouldn't be F1 and it wouldn't attract current F1 teams for the stated reasons.
Shakeman wrote: ↑02 Oct 2022, 11:22...maybe think a bit more about why manufacturers want to be associated with F1 as either a works team or supply engines. F1 rules are written with just enough scope for teams to express their development and engineering prowess over other teams, this is why F1 is not a spec series, the FIA understand this. F1 is just as much about what goes on in the labs and garages as it is about racing on track, I'm surprised you hadn't noticed this while reading this forum!
No sportsperson or teams cares about the 'show'. No boxer walks out to the ring hoping he'll be in a 12 round slugfest, he wants it over in the first round. No tennis player walks out hoping for a 5 set thriller, they want the game dead in 3 sets at 6/0. Every F1 team starts the year hoping to lead the pack round by 2 seconds like Merc did at the beginning of the hybrid era. So the very idea that a team investing 200M in a winning car will have to open up their IP to the whole grid is an absurd notion. No team, and more importantly, no boardroom is going to sanction that. F1 would cease to exist as teams would simply join another racing series which did allow them to demonstrate their engineering prowess and retain their IP which they have invested heavily in. When Merc was leading and lapping the field and publicly saying they hoped others would catch up, privately they would've been thinking the diametric opposite as a multi-year winning streak would've done almost incalculable benefit to the Mercedes brand. This is why teams compete and are prepared to invest such huge sums.
There is a reason why the FIA came down heavily on photogrammetry and laser scanning plagiarism as a means of drastically reducing development costs because they understood this would drive the top teams out of the sport and F1 would no longer be the pinnacle of motorsport, how could it be? There would be no reason to invest millions into the sport when a competitor can get close to your performance with a 100MP camera and a copy of Reality Capture. If you can understand this then surely you understand why your scheme is a non-starter?
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