I wonder what will be the Williams share situation, Porsche 50%, Dorilton some respectable amount, Toto likely already sold everything, does the Williams family retain some?Mr Brooksy wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 14:27This is some interesting news...
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/150218/d ... owner.html
That would be awesome. They have been Partners before, and with the Williams family out of the picture there should be no reason to keep a controlling stake from Porsche. The only problem is Williams isn't exactly a winning team right now, and Porsche won't have the patience nor the cash to build it into one. I could see Prosche engines being used... but a Porsche car built in England is it really a Porsche?
I would assume if this was an option Dorlington would either want to keep a controlling % or a total sell out as they will have differing targets. Porsche of course would be wanting wins, and the investment company would either a steady return on investment, or (possibly and) an increase in the value of the company.kptaylor wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 15:32Porsche Martini Racing livery to make a comeback? Also, wasn't RBR's issue Porsche wanted 51% to be in control? (Or did RBR want 51% so Porsche wouldn't be in control?)
And isn't Dorilton an investment firm? Isn't their deal to buy, improve and resell for a profit? Selling 50-51% to Porsche would allow them to recoup a portion or all of their initial investment and reinvest elsewhere. Sounds like a deal is exactly what they'd initially planned for.
I believe Porsche wanted the controlling interest in the partnership and Horner, Marko and Newey vehemently opposed that with the late RBR owner.
Porsche would need to set realistic targets in this instance - even achieving midfield from starting from scratch is difficult.Big Tea wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 19:53I would assume if this was an option Dorlington would either want to keep a controlling % or a total sell out as they will have differing targets. Porsche of course would be wanting wins, and the investment company would either a steady return on investment, or (possibly and) an increase in the value of the company.
A sucessful team will obviously be worth more, but there is always the call of' Board room says that's enough, get your gear we are off'
How so? Surely Porsche are aware that Williams are quite far behind on infrastructure and that large investments are required to make Williams (or Williams-Porsche) back into a winning Grand Prix team?PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 15:24The only problem is Williams isn't exactly a winning team right now, and Porsche won't have the patience nor the cash to build it into one.
Martini Racing are cheap (at least in the recent decade), so this seems unlikely! They would prefer a sponsor that pays full commercial rates, one presumes, not some cut-price deal!
Why should Dorilton care if Porsche only own 50% but put in more than 50% (95%) of the capital for infrastructure upgrades? That's a win-win for Dorilton, a free increase in capitalisation of Williams Racing on their part!
Hopefully some sound upgrades on these infrastructure facilities. At least things appear to be turning around now for Williams.JordanMugen wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 00:07I'm sure Porsche are aware they need to open their chequebooks to turn Williams Racing back into a Grand Prix winning team, and that they are keen and willing to do so!
Think you can Taylor the livery on how much they spend...JordanMugen wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 00:07Martini Racing are cheap (at least in the recent decade), so this seems unlikely! They would prefer a sponsor that pays full commercial rates, one presumes, not some cut-price deal!
Who knows what their reasons might be, they bought the team, they have every right. It is a discussion that Porsche has to have with them...no ?JordanMugen wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 00:07Why should Dorilton care if Porsche only own 50% but put in more than 50% (95%) of the capital for infrastructure upgrades? That's a win-win for Dorilton, a free increase in capitalisation of Williams Racing on their part!
I'm sure Porsche are aware they need to open their chequebooks to turn Williams Racing back into a Grand Prix winning team, and that they are keen and willing to do so!
JordanMugen wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 00:07PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 15:24The only problem is Williams isn't exactly a winning team right now, and Porsche won't have the patience nor the cash to build it into one.I think their biggest problems is infrastructure followed by money. They're lacking in equipment that is needed to build a proper F1 car. I don't think Dorilton are willing to spend the money fast enough, a la AMR, to be there in 3 years.JordanMugen wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 00:07How so? Surely Porsche are aware that Williams are quite far behind on infrastructure and that large investments are required to make Williams (or Williams-Porsche) back into a winning Grand Prix team?
The team is already staffed with many ex-VW Motorsport personnel so the Porsche influence should work nicely.