2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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tpe wrote:
14 Nov 2022, 22:01
I watched today the 1st past of the race.
And honestly, I cannot understand whyLeclerc did so few laps with the Mediums. Was it so bad tyre?
Same as Sainz, he was the only car with mediums on top 8-10, but was the first car to go into pits for new tires :?: :!:

With Ferrari tendency, we can assume if they were the only team on mediums, that´s because those were very poor tires #-o

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tpe wrote:
14 Nov 2022, 22:01
I watched today the 1st past of the race.
And honestly, I cannot understand whyLeclerc did so few laps with the Mediums. Was it so bad tyre?
Mediums degraded like crazy, laptimes for both Leclerc and Max went from 15.3 to 17.7 in 12-13 laps. Contrary, softs held up much better over longer distance, as you can see here:

https://en.mclarenf-1.com/2022/gp/s9073 ... s/833-821/

It was probably a bad tyre at that time, both Russell and Sainz had more consistent laps later on mediums.

tpe wrote:
14 Nov 2022, 22:01
I will not comment on the collision with Norris, I believe Leclerc should wait a bit more.
Wait for what exactly? Norris wanted to keep tightest inside line possible, rode the curb, lost control and hit Leclerc. 110% Norris' fault.

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I wonder why Norris defended only against Ferrari drivers.
Also didn't even apologize for the crash contact which was 100% his fault.

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https://www.racefans.net/2022/11/15/fer ... udget-cap/

“We didn’t compromise next year’s car development, but certainly we decided to stop the current one,” said Binotto. “Because on top of this normal development, on the current one, you would need to produce the parts and bring them on-track. And that was the extra cost that we couldn’t afford.”

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https://www.gazzetta.it/Formula-1/15-11 ... 93c40689hm
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President Elkann has decided on the change from January between the current team principal [Binotto] and the Frenchman [Vasseur] who is driving Alfa Romeo-Sauber

Luigi Perna and Giusto Ferronato
November 15 - Milan

Scossone at Ferrari, Mattia Binotto will no longer be the team principal in F1 and Frederic Vasseur from Alfa Romeo will take his place. The news of the sensational change at the top of the Prancing Horse team concerns the management of the stable starting next January. Vasseur, 54, a French engineer, had already been sounded out last summer by the Ferrari president John Elkann because the top management of Maranello were evaluating an alternative to Binotto, an option which then had not materialised.
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The Power of Dreams!

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Wouter wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 16:49
In other language. We will replace Mattia.
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That won't change anything..... I hope it's not true. Fire Rueda first.

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Wouter wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 16:49
Yes, just like Szafnaeur was not moving to Alpine.

There's a truth somewhere, but only time will tell it.

Vasseur? I don't see it. Maybe Simone Resta vouches for Vasseur? Simone Resta was the Alfa Romeo technical director in 2018. Leclerc drove for Vasseur in 2018. It would be a poetic no?

Also, Alfa Romeo has never been shy with team orders in the interest of the team while Vasseur has been there. That could be interesting to see his influence if rumor is true.


Anyway, Binotto is a misunderstood man. I hope he can have a place in the future team. He is by far the most likeable team principal of the big 3 and he has an engineering background and I always respect that in a leader. Someone who knows the technical realities of his own demands of the team as opposed to someone with a big mouth who knows nothing about engineering.
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The TP change is, as is usually the case, not really necessary at this point. I have no doubt that Ferrari intends to replace Binotto, but Just like Domenicali, Mattiaci, Arrivabene before him I don't think it will change anything. The only reason I could see it happening is if Elkann/upper management told Binotto he has to make changes to the team and he refused. The technical department is working better than they have in the last five, maybe even ten years. The sporting department is the problem. Rueda and Mekies should be on the chopping block. Binotto would still be a good TD, but I don't think he's ruthless enough to be TP.

The possible return of Resta and the inclusion of Vasseur seems like a swing in Leclerc's favor. Maybe he's given the team an ultimatum of some kind; Charles was much more animated on the radio in Brazil than before. Whatever happens it will be fascinating.
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continuum16 wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 20:24
The TP change is, as is usually the case, not really necessary at this point. I have no doubt that Ferrari intends to replace Binotto, but Just like Domenicali, Mattiaci, Arrivabene before him I don't think it will change anything. The only reason I could see it happening is if Elkann/upper management told Binotto he has to make changes to the team and he refused. The technical department is working better than they have in the last five, maybe even ten years. The sporting department is the problem. Rueda and Mekies should be on the chopping block. Binotto would still be a good TD, but I don't think he's ruthless enough to be TP.

The possible return of Resta and the inclusion of Vasseur seems like a swing in Leclerc's favor. Maybe he's given the team an ultimatum of some kind; Charles was much more animated on the radio in Brazil than before. Whatever happens it will be fascinating.
It does look like if change is coming it will be Fred and Resta running the show. The operations on race day at Sauber left a lot to be desired at times over the past few years with poor strategy and poor pitstops so we will have to see.

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RonMexico wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 20:55
continuum16 wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 20:24
The TP change is, as is usually the case, not really necessary at this point. I have no doubt that Ferrari intends to replace Binotto, but Just like Domenicali, Mattiaci, Arrivabene before him I don't think it will change anything. The only reason I could see it happening is if Elkann/upper management told Binotto he has to make changes to the team and he refused. The technical department is working better than they have in the last five, maybe even ten years. The sporting department is the problem. Rueda and Mekies should be on the chopping block. Binotto would still be a good TD, but I don't think he's ruthless enough to be TP.

The possible return of Resta and the inclusion of Vasseur seems like a swing in Leclerc's favor. Maybe he's given the team an ultimatum of some kind; Charles was much more animated on the radio in Brazil than before. Whatever happens it will be fascinating.
It does look like if change is coming it will be Fred and Resta running the show. The operations on race day at Sauber left a lot to be desired at times over the past few years with poor strategy and poor pitstops so we will have to see.
Yes but the problem is Sauber doesn't have a leg to stand on. Nobody wants to work for them because Sauber doesn't have the money to pay people or develop a car over a long season. They are not at the budget cap.

Did you see Bottas's post about beating AT in the WCC? He practically said they need the money to pay the staff more!

There's nothing a TP can do about that.
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My personal opinion is that they even change Binoto from TP, he has to stay at tech department part in some "director" role.
Ferrari made a lot of progress with him in tech part and also team need continuity, it is very essential, plus he can depart in other team with a lot of knowledge and experience.

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Something needs to happen. The team has underperformed too frequently this year. Maybe they need plan E 🤔

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Maybe they should get one (or more ) of their truckers to organise the pit stops, they have to be organised and are usually straight talking.
I don't mean making the strategy, but executing it. If the truckers are told these items must be at this point at this time, it is bread and butter to them where as senior engineers sometime do not think about the little human links needed to make things happen. And I am only half kidding
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