Ty, I did not know of that one.
with that being said, It seems Horner started that particular issue.
And I have to say imo, Toto was nicer about it than I would have been!
Ty, I did not know of that one.
One can say exactly that about Horner's statement too! This is what I was saying earlier, people make rabid choices. Toto made a certain choice whereas you would have made a more aggressive choice and you blame team personnel for it. Someone else on the roadside makes an even aggressive choice to go and attack Red Bull team members. Not that different.
The discussion about turn 2 in Brazil spilled into about 3-4 other threads.
Good Idea, I'm out too
Statement Translation:SiLo wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 18:19Nothing about Checo in there. This team is genuinely odd.
Max is to Red Bull what Mbappe is to PSG.
I love how they played the social media toxicity card.. yet didn’t acknowledge that Max’s mum was socially abusive to Checo, claiming he had an affair. DisasterWouter wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 13:44RBR STATEMENT
.A Comment Following The Brazil GP
The Team has released the following comment.
Written by Oracle Red Bull Racing
Published on 17.11.2022 · 12:00 UTC+1
As a team we made some mistakes in Brazil. We had not envisaged the situation that unfolded on the last lap and we had not agreed a strategy for such a scenario before the race. Regretfully, Max was only informed at the final corner of the request to give up position without all the necessary information being relayed. This put Max, who has always been an open and fair team player, in a compromising situation with little time to react which was not our intention. Following the race Max spoke openly and honestly, allowing for both drivers to resolve any outstanding issues or concerns. The Team accept Max's reasoning, the conversation was a personal matter which will remain private between the team and no further comment will be made.
The events that followed from a social media point of view are completely unacceptable. The abusive online behaviour towards Max, Checo, the Team and their respective families is shocking and saddening and unfortunately is something that we as a sport are having to address with depressing regularity. There is no place for it in racing or society as a whole and we need to do and be better. At the end of the day this is a sport, we are here to race. Death threats, hate mail, vitriol towards extended family members is deplorable. We value inclusion and want a safe space for everyone to work in and enjoy our sport. The abuse needs to stop.
None of this was alleged. The photos of what was reported were in the british junk tabloids during the Monaco weekend. Perez issued a public statement that the matter was behind him.F1NAC wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 22:32I love how they played the social media toxicity card.. yet didn’t acknowledge that Max’s mum was socially abusive to Checo, claiming he had an affair. DisasterWouter wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 13:44RBR STATEMENT
.A Comment Following The Brazil GP
The Team has released the following comment.
Written by Oracle Red Bull Racing
Published on 17.11.2022 · 12:00 UTC+1
As a team we made some mistakes in Brazil. We had not envisaged the situation that unfolded on the last lap and we had not agreed a strategy for such a scenario before the race. Regretfully, Max was only informed at the final corner of the request to give up position without all the necessary information being relayed. This put Max, who has always been an open and fair team player, in a compromising situation with little time to react which was not our intention. Following the race Max spoke openly and honestly, allowing for both drivers to resolve any outstanding issues or concerns. The Team accept Max's reasoning, the conversation was a personal matter which will remain private between the team and no further comment will be made.
The events that followed from a social media point of view are completely unacceptable. The abusive online behaviour towards Max, Checo, the Team and their respective families is shocking and saddening and unfortunately is something that we as a sport are having to address with depressing regularity. There is no place for it in racing or society as a whole and we need to do and be better. At the end of the day this is a sport, we are here to race. Death threats, hate mail, vitriol towards extended family members is deplorable. We value inclusion and want a safe space for everyone to work in and enjoy our sport. The abuse needs to stop.
What has Red Bull racing to do with family affairs? Red Bull's only concern is the car.gshevlin wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 22:37The intervention by Sophie Kumpen went way off the reservation. But it was predictable that she would say something incendiary. Her mother instinct was activated.
Red Bull has a lot of work to do over the winter.
The reality is that there is also a lot of dysfunctionality in that family, with Max's father and his well-documented anger management issues (including domestic abuse).
So you think the abuse Max got as a child has no bearing on how he interacts with the team, his teammate, or any other driver on the grid, or person in the paddock?