Thanks, how many volts is the RBPT/Honda ERS running? They say Ferrari is between 800 and 900 Volts since Turkey 2021 where 1.000 Volts is the regulated max. according to this article: https://www.motorsportweek.com/2021/10/ ... component/
Thanks, how many volts is the RBPT/Honda ERS running? They say Ferrari is between 800 and 900 Volts since Turkey 2021 where 1.000 Volts is the regulated max. according to this article: https://www.motorsportweek.com/2021/10/ ... component/
beg your pardon, but how charging in big cities /europe/ is going to work?mzso wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 13:31The only place where EV's cant be charged is where there's no electricity. Rapid charging is of no significance. Only needed for people going on really long trips.
You have it backward with major cities. People with their own houses are the first to buy EVs and pretty much all charge at home. They way this would logically develop is parking lot charging (not rapid charging) would be more commonplace wherever you park your car when you're at home or at your workplace.
Slightly off topic, and I don't know what the answer to this question is, but there was a time people traveled by horse and carriage. The gasoline car was invented. Eventually the petrol station was ubiquitous. If the EV "makes it", then infrastructure to support it's demands will follow. Just like the gasoline car.etusch wrote: ↑21 Jan 2023, 14:26Lets assume that someone found a battery tech that can be charged same time with fulling a gassoline fuel tank. Now there is no shortcomming with EV cars. How much electric production will be needed if the same count of car which are going gas stations in these days, wanted to full their charge in a given time? Especially winter or summer times which air conditioners used very much?
I was expecting an answer like this. Of course if there is more electric demand there will more supply but it is not like petrol. And it is not only production thing(which will not be clean as claimed). I don't think current electricity distribution line(so to say) is enought to take over so much power transition. We can find most of the tech today at science fiction movies. But at the end future can be different than expected. I just don't expect more fully electric car than ice equipped ones.AR3-GP wrote: ↑21 Jan 2023, 15:38Slightly off topic, and I don't know what the answer to this question is, but there was a time people traveled by horse and carriage. The gasoline car was invented. Eventually the petrol station was ubiquitous. If the EV "makes it", then infrastructure to support it's demands will follow. Just like the gasoline car.etusch wrote: ↑21 Jan 2023, 14:26Lets assume that someone found a battery tech that can be charged same time with fulling a gassoline fuel tank. Now there is no shortcomming with EV cars. How much electric production will be needed if the same count of car which are going gas stations in these days, wanted to full their charge in a given time? Especially winter or summer times which air conditioners used very much?
Imagine if a supermarket or sports hall covered the roof with panels. short runs to the parking area and lots of cash for them free once costs are covered.etusch wrote: ↑21 Jan 2023, 17:33I was expecting an answer like this. Of course if there is more electric demand there will more supply but it is not like petrol. And it is not only production thing(which will not be clean as claimed). I don't think current electricity distribution line(so to say) is enought to take over so much power transition. We can find most of the tech today at science fiction movies. But at the end future can be different than expected. I just don't expect more fully electric car than ice equipped ones.AR3-GP wrote: ↑21 Jan 2023, 15:38Slightly off topic, and I don't know what the answer to this question is, but there was a time people traveled by horse and carriage. The gasoline car was invented. Eventually the petrol station was ubiquitous. If the EV "makes it", then infrastructure to support it's demands will follow. Just like the gasoline car.etusch wrote: ↑21 Jan 2023, 14:26Lets assume that someone found a battery tech that can be charged same time with fulling a gassoline fuel tank. Now there is no shortcomming with EV cars. How much electric production will be needed if the same count of car which are going gas stations in these days, wanted to full their charge in a given time? Especially winter or summer times which air conditioners used very much?
I'm unsure what is confusing. If people want to buy it, you can bet capitalism will be sure the infrastructure is in place. Also, I never said the electricity would be "clean" and I'm not weighing in on whether EVs are better or not. I'm only making it clear that there isn't really any technological barrier towards "Everyone charging their car at the same time" even though such a "requirement" is a bit of a fallacy in of itself for many reasons.etusch wrote: ↑21 Jan 2023, 17:33I was expecting an answer like this. Of course if there is more electric demand there will more supply but it is not like petrol. And it is not only production thing(which will not be clean as claimed). I don't think current electricity distribution line(so to say) is enought to take over so much power transition. We can find most of the tech today at science fiction movies. But at the end future can be different than expected. I just don't expect more fully electric car than ice equipped ones.AR3-GP wrote: ↑21 Jan 2023, 15:38Slightly off topic, and I don't know what the answer to this question is, but there was a time people traveled by horse and carriage. The gasoline car was invented. Eventually the petrol station was ubiquitous. If the EV "makes it", then infrastructure to support it's demands will follow. Just like the gasoline car.etusch wrote: ↑21 Jan 2023, 14:26Lets assume that someone found a battery tech that can be charged same time with fulling a gassoline fuel tank. Now there is no shortcomming with EV cars. How much electric production will be needed if the same count of car which are going gas stations in these days, wanted to full their charge in a given time? Especially winter or summer times which air conditioners used very much?
Looks like we're on a tangent but the point is if wherever it is you park your car over night, also charges it, then you car will have a full battery every morning and it doesnt matter if it took 9 hours to get that way.restless wrote: ↑20 Jan 2023, 15:20beg your pardon, but how charging in big cities /europe/ is going to work?mzso wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 13:31The only place where EV's cant be charged is where there's no electricity. Rapid charging is of no significance. Only needed for people going on really long trips.
You have it backward with major cities. People with their own houses are the first to buy EVs and pretty much all charge at home. They way this would logically develop is parking lot charging (not rapid charging) would be more commonplace wherever you park your car when you're at home or at your workplace.
Living in big city where all the people have their own houses... you must be dreaming or something.
How to change current infrastructure to accomodate hundreds of thousand cars being charged at night... I wont even touch it.
I didn't say you said it is clean. I also don't hate electric cars( I prefer hybrid or ice). But you know they say it is clean, some governments says we will ban ice vehicles etc. My objective is these are wrong and nkt based on realities. Ice's will be there according to me.AR3-GP wrote: ↑21 Jan 2023, 21:20I'm unsure what is confusing. If people want to buy it, you can bet capitalism will be sure the infrastructure is in place. Also, I never said the electricity would be "clean" and I'm not weighing in on whether EVs are better or not. I'm only making it clear that there isn't really any technological barrier towards "Everyone charging their car at the same time" even though such a "requirement" is a bit of a fallacy in of itself for many reasons.etusch wrote: ↑21 Jan 2023, 17:33I was expecting an answer like this. Of course if there is more electric demand there will more supply but it is not like petrol. And it is not only production thing(which will not be clean as claimed). I don't think current electricity distribution line(so to say) is enought to take over so much power transition. We can find most of the tech today at science fiction movies. But at the end future can be different than expected. I just don't expect more fully electric car than ice equipped ones.AR3-GP wrote: ↑21 Jan 2023, 15:38
Slightly off topic, and I don't know what the answer to this question is, but there was a time people traveled by horse and carriage. The gasoline car was invented. Eventually the petrol station was ubiquitous. If the EV "makes it", then infrastructure to support it's demands will follow. Just like the gasoline car.
You need charging connection and that's it. The infrastructure doesn't need to change much.restless wrote: ↑20 Jan 2023, 15:20beg your pardon, but how charging in big cities /europe/ is going to work?mzso wrote: ↑03 Jan 2023, 13:31The only place where EV's cant be charged is where there's no electricity. Rapid charging is of no significance. Only needed for people going on really long trips.
You have it backward with major cities. People with their own houses are the first to buy EVs and pretty much all charge at home. They way this would logically develop is parking lot charging (not rapid charging) would be more commonplace wherever you park your car when you're at home or at your workplace.
Living in big city where all the people have their own houses... you must be dreaming or something.
How to change current infrastructure to accomodate hundreds of thousand cars being charged at night... I wont even touch it.
It's as clean s you want it to be. As a matter of fact it's cleaner to burn the oil to generate electricity than to use them in ICE car.etusch wrote: ↑21 Jan 2023, 17:33I was expecting an answer like this. Of course if there is more electric demand there will more supply but it is not like petrol. And it is not only production thing(which will not be clean as claimed). I don't think current electricity distribution line(so to say) is enought to take over so much power transition. We can find most of the tech today at science fiction movies. But at the end future can be different than expected. I just don't expect more fully electric car than ice equipped ones.AR3-GP wrote: ↑21 Jan 2023, 15:38Slightly off topic, and I don't know what the answer to this question is, but there was a time people traveled by horse and carriage. The gasoline car was invented. Eventually the petrol station was ubiquitous. If the EV "makes it", then infrastructure to support it's demands will follow. Just like the gasoline car.etusch wrote: ↑21 Jan 2023, 14:26Lets assume that someone found a battery tech that can be charged same time with fulling a gassoline fuel tank. Now there is no shortcomming with EV cars. How much electric production will be needed if the same count of car which are going gas stations in these days, wanted to full their charge in a given time? Especially winter or summer times which air conditioners used very much?
https://the-race.com/formula-1/fia-star ... y-as-2025/This has now begun with a call for expressions of interest published by the FIA, intended to identify “one or more new F1 teams” to compete from the start of the 2025, 2026 or 2027 season.
The F1 grid is capped at 12 teams under the current Concorde Agreement, the commercial contract teams agree with F1, which runs to the end of the 2025 season.
If a team were to join in 2025 it may only have to pay the current anti-dilution fund cost of $200million instead of a much higher fee that could be implemented in the next Concorde Agreement.