Very interesting Vanja. Thanks for the insights.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 22:27Here's some thoughts from my side in more detail. Front wing is a very big change. Visible improvements and much tighter radiator layout, sidepod bodywork looks like it can be further tightened if needed. Might be good to open first picture in another window...
https://i.ibb.co/k2btpsS/front-3-4.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/gWLCShC/side.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Q87QxJ3/rear-3-4.jpg
Actually the front suspension was raised, not loweredGiando wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 22:36I might be wrong... but i think the SF23's monocoque has two small keels to lower the position of the front-suspension wishbone... (orange arrow)
https://postimages.org/
Compare it with the F1-75 where the shape of the chassis was linear / flat
https://postimg.cc/PpgBKtHc
In pretty much the same way a vortex generator does.matteosc wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 22:18I am sure that there is a reason for this positioning, but it is not clear to me how it would reduce losses and improving airflow.Andi76 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 21:31https://postimages.org/matteosc wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 21:14
It looks like they kept the lower impact structure high in the sidepodes and it is now almost "sticking out". I would have expected them to move it in the floor like others did. To me it looks like where it is now it limits the depth of the undercut that they can produce.
I think its on pupose and quite clever. It could actually be used reduce loses in this area and improve airflow.
Because of the track and an extremely stiff suspension set-up.
the lower wishbone rear arm, my friend... watch carefullyAndi76 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 23:09Actually the front suspension was raised, not loweredGiando wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 22:36I might be wrong... but i think the SF23's monocoque has two small keels to lower the position of the front-suspension wishbone... (orange arrow)
https://postimages.org/
Compare it with the F1-75 where the shape of the chassis was linear / flat
https://postimg.cc/PpgBKtHc
https://postimages.org/
https://postimages.org/
You can clearly see the lower rear wishbone arm on the image i posted and its almost in line with the front lower wishbone, which is definetely higher than last year, as are the top wishbones.Giando wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 23:11the lower wishbone rear arm, my friend... watch carefullyAndi76 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 23:09Actually the front suspension was raised, not loweredGiando wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 22:36I might be wrong... but i think the SF23's monocoque has two small keels to lower the position of the front-suspension wishbone... (orange arrow)
https://postimages.org/
Compare it with the F1-75 where the shape of the chassis was linear / flat
https://postimg.cc/PpgBKtHc
https://postimages.org/
https://postimages.org/
I'm sorry but, actually, a front picture isn't the best to judge and compare the respective height of two elements such the front and rear arms of a wishbone... because one is much closer to your view due to the perspective and the other one is more distant... so, it's more likely that such a picture could deceive you.Andi76 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 23:14You can clearly see the lower rear wishbone arm on the image i posted and its almost in line with the front lower wishbone, which is definetely higher than last year, as are the top wishbones.Giando wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 23:11the lower wishbone rear arm, my friend... watch carefullyAndi76 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 23:09
Actually the front suspension was raised, not lowered
https://postimages.org/
https://postimages.org/
I can see what you mean in your picture, but it is rather unclear and can be deceiving, while other better pictures clearly show that the whole suspension is higher
You are wrong. You can clearly see on the mounting points of the chassis that the suspension is higher. And by now I'm not the only one who has noticed it. Piola and Hughes have also just reported on it a few minutes ago. The bulge on your pic it is rather unclear and it is not at all recognizable what this actually is.Giando wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 23:36I'm sorry but, actually, a front picture isn't the best to judge and compare the respective height of two elements such the front and rear arms of a wishbone... because one is much closer to your view due to the perspective and the other one is more distant... so, it's more likely that such a picture could deceive you.Andi76 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 23:14You can clearly see the lower rear wishbone arm on the image i posted and its almost in line with the front lower wishbone, which is definetely higher than last year, as are the top wishbones.
I can see what you mean in your picture, but it is rather unclear and can be deceiving, while other better pictures clearly show that the whole suspension is higher
The side photo i posted instead clearly shows some bulge in the lower part of the chassis shell.
I might still be wrong of course
Yes, obviously i am going to be wrong and you are going to be absolutely right.Andi76 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2023, 00:09You are wrong. You can clearly see on the mounting points of the chassis that the suspension is higher. And by now I'm not the only one who has noticed it. Piola and Hughes have also just reported on it a few minutes ago. The bulge on your pic it is rather unclear and it is not at all recognizable what this actually is.Giando wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 23:36I'm sorry but, actually, a front picture isn't the best to judge and compare the respective height of two elements such the front and rear arms of a wishbone... because one is much closer to your view due to the perspective and the other one is more distant... so, it's more likely that such a picture could deceive you.Andi76 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2023, 23:14
You can clearly see the lower rear wishbone arm on the image i posted and its almost in line with the front lower wishbone, which is definetely higher than last year, as are the top wishbones.
I can see what you mean in your picture, but it is rather unclear and can be deceiving, while other better pictures clearly show that the whole suspension is higher
The side photo i posted instead clearly shows some bulge in the lower part of the chassis shell.
I might still be wrong of course