Mercedes W14

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Venturiation wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 12:47
Sidepods are now even smaller
No the sidepods are noticeably larger everywhere except towards the inlet

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F1NAC wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 11:28
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15 Feb 2023, 11:13
Wow this is really a cool development. I guess we won't have 10 cars looking the same as last year.. merc making big change

The floor is nowhere near as exposed as last year. Almost filling it up now

Zeropods are dead. Long live weird pods
it is still zeropod. Reshaped, but same philosohpy.
Sorry, but that isn't "Zeropod" any more, not at all. Its concept and philosophy thats SIMILAR in that it tries to keep some of its benefits without having the massive disasvantages. But it changed so much that its not at all a Zeropod concept anymore.
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Andi76 wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:01
F1NAC wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 11:28
organic wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 11:13
Wow this is really a cool development. I guess we won't have 10 cars looking the same as last year.. merc making big change

The floor is nowhere near as exposed as last year. Almost filling it up now

Zeropods are dead. Long live weird pods
it is still zeropod. Reshaped, but same philosohpy.
Sorry, but that isn't "Zeropod" any more, not at all. Its concept and philosophy thats SIMILAR in that it tries to keep some of its benefits without having the massive disasvantages. But it changed so much that its not at all a Zeropod concept anymore.
It is zeropods

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These intakes just keep reminding me of the 1990 Ferrari 641 all the time... :D

Do the pros on the forum think drag is not going to be an issue? I don't know so that's why I am asking...

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Venturiation wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:03
Andi76 wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:01
F1NAC wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 11:28


it is still zeropod. Reshaped, but same philosohpy.
Sorry, but that isn't "Zeropod" any more, not at all. Its concept and philosophy thats SIMILAR in that it tries to keep some of its benefits without having the massive disasvantages. But it changed so much that its not at all a Zeropod concept anymore.
It is zeropods
Absolutely not. Sidepods are clearly visible from the front, top and the sides. From the top you can even clearly see their shape from front to rear. Thats not Zeropods.

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Andi76 wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:09
Venturiation wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:03
Andi76 wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:01


Sorry, but that isn't "Zeropod" any more, not at all. Its concept and philosophy thats SIMILAR in that it tries to keep some of its benefits without having the massive disasvantages. But it changed so much that its not at all a Zeropod concept anymore.
It is zeropods
Absolutely not. Sidepods are clearly visible from the front, top and the sides. From the top you can even clearly see their shape from front to rear. Thats not Zeropods.
You can compare it to other cars it's still zeropods , just a different design
Zeropods

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PinkFloydPulse wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:06
These intakes just keep reminding me of the 1990 Ferrari 641 all the time... :D

Do the pros on the forum think drag is not going to be an issue? I don't know so that's why I am asking...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... MOMA_2.jpg
It's difficult to compare with the Ferrari 641 because there's so much more floor real estate now. And also you can see how far out the tires are in the Ferrari. In the current formula, the tires are a critical "aero device" as they interfere with the airflow pattern of the bodywork much more drastically than in 1990.

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Venturiation wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:14
Andi76 wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:09
Venturiation wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:03


It is zeropods
Absolutely not. Sidepods are clearly visible from the front, top and the sides. From the top you can even clearly see their shape from front to rear. Thats not Zeropods.
You can compare it to other cars it's still zeropods , just a different design
Zeropods
#-o what the w13 had will and always be the zeropods idea

They've ditched zeropods but developed the good ideas behind it to this new approach with an elongated but low sidepod and cannon exits.

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Nice design on the sidepods, reminds me of the Saab Gripen
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Venturiation wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:14
Andi76 wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:09
Venturiation wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:03


It is zeropods
Absolutely not. Sidepods are clearly visible from the front, top and the sides. From the top you can even clearly see their shape from front to rear. Thats not Zeropods.
You can compare it to other cars it's still zeropods , just a different design
Zeropods
How about vertical pods. Vertipods. :)
Zeropods is just playing with semantics for the sake of it, there's obviously nothing "zero" about them, they're quite present.

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PinkFloydPulse wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:06
These intakes just keep reminding me of the 1990 Ferrari 641 all the time... :D

Do the pros on the forum think drag is not going to be an issue? I don't know so that's why I am asking...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... MOMA_2.jpg
Such a beautiful car

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organic wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:17
Venturiation wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:14
Andi76 wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:09


Absolutely not. Sidepods are clearly visible from the front, top and the sides. From the top you can even clearly see their shape from front to rear. Thats not Zeropods.
You can compare it to other cars it's still zeropods , just a different design
Zeropods
#-o what the w13 had will and always be the zeropods idea

They've ditched zeropods but developed the good ideas behind it to this new approach with an elongated but low sidepod and cannon exits.
Let's just call it the halfpod and be done with this argument.

Clearly they have slightly more volume overall than last season, but still way less than the other teams.

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kediown wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 13:07
Can't wait to see it on track, this ZEROPODS evolution is beautiful