Aston Martin AMR23

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Alonso Fan wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 00:54
Mansell89 wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 00:14


Bit of an amateur question about the Merc rear suspension that they purchase as a listed part- is it a “fixed” iteration, I.E the same suspension for both teams? Or can there be modification or differences between what each team want?
As far as I know AM make their own suspension but are limited by mounting points because they buy mercs gearbox and casing
Last year Aston Martin took rear suspension and developed their own front suspension.
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Dan Fallows stated at the launch......"Team will follow aggressive development & 2/3rd of car will be changed by end of the season. The car won't look anything like this."

Is it due to the aggressive design of AMR23 or team already thinking of AMR23B?

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NAPI10 wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 03:14
Dan Fallows stated at the launch......"Team will follow aggressive development & 2/3rd of car will be changed by end of the season. The car won't look anything like this."

Is it due to the aggressive design of AMR23 or team already thinking of AMR23B?
I believe the former. Aggressive development to close the gap to the top.

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NAPI10 wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 03:14
Dan Fallows stated at the launch......"Team will follow aggressive development & 2/3rd of car will be changed by end of the season. The car won't look anything like this."

Is it due to the aggressive design of AMR23 or team already thinking of AMR23B?
I would say 2/3rds is a good figure for a team with a strong level of development. Side pod, front wing, rear wing, floor is basically two thirds of the car already if not more.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 06:05
NAPI10 wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 03:14
Dan Fallows stated at the launch......"Team will follow aggressive development & 2/3rd of car will be changed by end of the season. The car won't look anything like this."

Is it due to the aggressive design of AMR23 or team already thinking of AMR23B?
I would say 2/3rds is a good figure for a team with a strong level of development. Side pod, front wing, rear wing, floor is basically two thirds of the car already if not more.
It all depends on wind tunnel / track correlation. If they have the right concept to start with AND correlation is outstanding, they can allocate their development budget to the right places. The development race has also become a efficiency race. So bold predictions are... predictions.

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we can see a bit of the back


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What i can glean so far is that the mercedes pu cars seem to have better cooling systems. Possibly influenced by the works team.
Less vents on the sidepods and more rear outlet biased cooling.
The next would be Honda as seen on the Alpha tauri.
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ringo wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 14:48
What i can glean so far is that the mercedes pu cars seem to have better cooling systems. Possibly influenced by the works team.
Less vents on the sidepods and more rear outlet biased cooling.
The next would be Honda as seen on the Alpha tauri.
Maybe it's just because they're going through the shake downs in cooler climates or cooler days. Until you see them on the track at the same time with a common goal, It's hard to judge cooling needs.

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"They said there was going to be no change... but we've been able to see one. Only one pillar"


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is the light playing tricks or the ramp is this agressive, cant be, thats INSANE

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f1rules wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 17:01
is the light playing tricks or the ramp is this agressive, cant be, thats INSANE

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpBC2DaWIAM ... me=900x900
It is that aggressive the front-on shots have already confirmed that

Vanja and a few others were having discussions recently that you could have something like this..

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organic wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 17:03
f1rules wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 17:01
is the light playing tricks or the ramp is this agressive, cant be, thats INSANE

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpBC2DaWIAM ... me=900x900
It is that aggressive the front-on shots have already confirmed that

Vanja and a few others were having discussions recently that you could have something like this..
it's basically Last year's williams sloped sidepod morphed with rest of the outer part of the sidepod
ringo wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 14:48
What i can glean so far is that the mercedes pu cars seem to have better cooling systems. Possibly influenced by the works team.
Less vents on the sidepods and more rear outlet biased cooling.
The next would be Honda as seen on the Alpha tauri.
We should probably calculate effective area of the gills on the sidepods from Ferrari without canon exit, and effective area of canon exit on other teams. I doubt that for example Ferrari needs that much cooling.
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yeah does remind the williams, difference though, the undercut is far deeper here i think

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f1rules wrote:
15 Feb 2023, 17:01
is the light playing tricks or the ramp is this agressive, cant be, thats INSANE

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpBC2DaWIAM ... me=900x900
It's probably limited by how much you can dive down and still keep the air attatched.