Mercedes W14

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organic wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 17:55
Venturiation wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 17:49
ride height looks higher

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpGT3R-XoAI ... name=large
they won't run proper ride heights in a shakedown
They're also on wet weather tyres that raise the ride height. They do appear to be running a little more rake though, albeit still having a relatively flat car.

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organic wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 17:55
Venturiation wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 17:49
ride height looks higher

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpGT3R-XoAI ... name=large
they won't run proper ride heights in a shakedown
why not? they need to see if car bounces agin
it was what mislead them last year

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Venturiation wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 18:06
organic wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 17:55
Venturiation wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 17:49
ride height looks higher

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpGT3R-XoAI ... name=large
they won't run proper ride heights in a shakedown
why not? they need to see if car bounces agin
it was what mislead them last year
I agree, that would have been the first thing you do. Slam the car and see if it bounces. It was the single most damaging thing of 2022 for them.
A lion must kill its prey.

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Venturiation wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 18:06
organic wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 17:55
Venturiation wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 17:49
ride height looks higher

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpGT3R-XoAI ... name=large
they won't run proper ride heights in a shakedown
why not? they need to see if car bounces agin
it was what mislead them last year
Wet shakedown, with not the final car, show-tires and not the 2023s tires. They can use this day to check the car. Not for testing.

AR3-GP
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sbrillo wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 18:09
Venturiation wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 18:06
organic wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 17:55


they won't run proper ride heights in a shakedown
why not? they need to see if car bounces agin
it was what mislead them last year
Wet shakedown, with not the final car, show-tires and not the 2023s tires. They can use this day to check the car. Not for testing.
Last year Mercedes said they knew about the bouncing from the shakedown day.
A lion must kill its prey.

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sbrillo
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AR3-GP wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 18:12
sbrillo wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 18:09
Venturiation wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 18:06

why not? they need to see if car bounces agin
it was what mislead them last year
Wet shakedown, with not the final car, show-tires and not the 2023s tires. They can use this day to check the car. Not for testing.
Last year Mercedes said they knew about the bouncing from the shakedown day.
But that was a different car and maybe they were unsure if the size zero pods had the same problem.
I’m sure that this time they will not make the same mistake

Venturiation
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sbrillo wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 18:24
AR3-GP wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 18:12
sbrillo wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 18:09


Wet shakedown, with not the final car, show-tires and not the 2023s tires. They can use this day to check the car. Not for testing.
Last year Mercedes said they knew about the bouncing from the shakedown day.
But that was a different car and maybe they were unsure if the size zero pods had the same problem.
I’m sure that this time they will not make the same mistake
the sidepods has nothing to do with the porpoising, the car was the same

Evo2racer
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AR3-GP wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 18:12
sbrillo wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 18:09
Venturiation wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 18:06

why not? they need to see if car bounces agin
it was what mislead them last year
Wet shakedown, with not the final car, show-tires and not the 2023s tires. They can use this day to check the car. Not for testing.
Last year Mercedes said they knew about the bouncing from the shakedown day.

Very true ! And it was the same conditions and the car was set up higher just like this year…

Lets hope the W14 will not bounce at all next week !😊🤘

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Venturiation wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 17:49
ride height looks higher

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpGT3R-XoAI ... name=large
Plus full wets lift the car up too.

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i downloaded and watched the video with zoom, slomo and some color changes and the cars seems to bouncing a bit
not alot but it's there , maybe it's just an illusion anyone can confirm?



f1jcw
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Venturiation wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 18:53
i downloaded and watched the video with zoom, slomo and some color changes and the cars seems to bouncing a bit
not alot but it's there , maybe it's just an illusion anyone can confirm?


probs just track undulations, don't think they'd be going fast enough for proper bouncing

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Venturiation wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 18:53
i downloaded and watched the video with zoom, slomo and some color changes and the cars seems to bouncing a bit
not alot but it's there , maybe it's just an illusion anyone can confirm?


Between the shaking camera man and the motion blurring, it's impossible to say anything conclusive.
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Venturiation wrote:
16 Feb 2023, 18:53
i downloaded and watched the video with zoom, slomo and some color changes and the cars seems to bouncing a bit
not alot but it's there , maybe it's just an illusion anyone can confirm?
I didnt know porpoising was even possible on wets due to the inability and unwillingness to get to a fast enuf speed. Learned something new apparently. I would figure in the video it is more the tracks bumpy surface.

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car looks deformed, like it has bathtubs on top of it

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