Mercedes W14

[wogx]

One last attempt, this time I tried to align the height of both cars from the floor to the airbox (without the T-cam it would be 95 cm if I remember correctly (?)), this should give a better comparison in the plane of symmetry

[PlatinumZealot]

Cockpit distance looks the same to me. It's has been a Mercedes trait to use the maximum allowed length ofr front wheel to cockpit though... So I supposed they did that in 2022 and 2023..

[mantikos]

Cockpit distance looks the same to me. It's has been a Mercedes trait to use the maximum allowed length ofr front wheel to cockpit though... So I supposed they did that in 2022 and 2023..

Agree, looks the same to me. Which would mean the radiator inlets are further up (in both axes) based solely on that comparative visual.

Appears to be a evolution of the previous car, with the shoulders widening and turning into cannons (you can see the shoulder line in the W13) and the waist below the cannons become slimmer. Pods further up in both axes with a similar contour.

[Rootsap]

One last attempt, this time I tried to align the height of both cars from the floor to the airbox (without the T-cam it would be 95 cm if I remember correctly (?)), this should give a better comparison in the plane of symmetry

https://wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/e6bab2fe5 ... 00da64.gif

the angle in both these pics is a little different, hard to make actual measurements on this

[SmallSoldier]

Front corner details:

[f1_aerodynamicist]

Check out this video , to get an insight into how the Front Wing Tips of the W14 work

[atanatizante]

Fake or real porpoesing?

[marcel171281]

Cockpit distance looks the same to me. It's has been a Mercedes trait to use the maximum allowed length ofr front wheel to cockpit though... So I supposed they did that in 2022 and 2023..

You sure? Mercedes had the cockpit most forward of all teams last years and had the smallest distance between the front axle and the cockpit. RB the exact oposite.

Check this:


Look were the helmet is relative to the front wheels at the Merc and RB.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if that stayed the same for 2023. I have seen images were it looks like the mercedes tub is even more forwards, but pretty sure that has all to do with the perspective of those pictures. In most it looks (nearly) identical to last year. The RB is still a question mark of course, but they might even use the same tub as last year (only the never introduced lighter variant of it).

[littlebigcat]

Fake or real porpoesing?

That video...is trash.

[yinlad]

https://gyazo.com/677f597577858c85607a8115e4430682

if anything speaks to porpoising it's this part of the video, but it's such a short cut it's pretty speculative. Only that the car is compressing aggressively on a near perfectly flat bit of track

[214270]

https://gyazo.com/677f597577858c85607a8115e4430682

if anything speaks to porpoising it's this part of the video, but it's such a short cut it's pretty speculative. Only that the car is compressing aggressively on a near perfectly flat bit of track

There’s nothing there the looks remotely rhythmic.

[zibby43]

[wogx]

Another tweet about W14 porpoising, but it's disputable for me:

Has the nightmare of Mercedes engineers called porpoising returned? This may be indicated by the recordings from the W14 cockpit shared by the team after yesterday's film day: #F1pl #EchaPadoku

[yinlad]

https://gyazo.com/677f597577858c85607a8115e4430682

if anything speaks to porpoising it's this part of the video, but it's such a short cut it's pretty speculative. Only that the car is compressing aggressively on a near perfectly flat bit of track

There’s nothing there the looks remotely rhythmic.

It's too short and it's too slowed down to see anything rhythmic, if you look at the gap between floor and road it looks to be half a 'wavelength' of a porpoise event. It's a substantial ride height change (20mm at a guess?) considering the surface being driven on. Which is why I suspect it could be porpoising

[214270]

Will they be able to run with that front cooling panel closed more often or not? I don’t think I remember a time last year when it was completely blocked off