Aston Martin AMR23

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Egresi Tamás wrote:
19 Feb 2023, 21:27
Some people on reddit are suggesting it’s a lower crash structure due to tight body work?

Edit: apparently Ferrari has one too?

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AR3-GP wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 02:58
That could very well be an S-duct inlet.

This AMR23 is tremendous. This is easily the most aggressive rethink from any team.
Could just be an optical illusion and the AMR23 hasn't done anything yet.

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diffuser wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 04:48
AR3-GP wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 02:58
That could very well be an S-duct inlet.

This AMR23 is tremendous. This is easily the most aggressive rethink from any team.
Could just be an optical illusion and the AMR23 hasn't done anything yet.
I said it was an aggressive rethink. I'm not judging it based on what's it's done. I'm only describing what the car looks like and how innovative detail is popping up everywhere.
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AR3-GP wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 02:58
That could very well be an S-duct inlet.

This AMR23 is tremendous. This is easily the most aggressive rethink from any team.
It does seem to be the crash structure, so false alarm maybe.

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KimiRai wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 05:34
AR3-GP wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 02:58
That could very well be an S-duct inlet.

This AMR23 is tremendous. This is easily the most aggressive rethink from any team.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves lol... chances are Bahrain arrives and both get knocked out on Q2.

On topic now, it does seem to be the crash structure, so false alarm maybe.

https://i.imgur.com/XjQ0wNO.jpg
I think you're correct.

This isn't the thread for wishful performance analysis, and I never made any claims about the car's performance.

I only said the design is aggressive. A complete overhaul of the AMR22. More revisions than any other car on the grid.
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KimiRai wrote:
19 Feb 2023, 23:15
"Aston Martin has found its own interpretation of the new front wing joining rules. This is a solution referring to Mercedes, but there are also differences:"

It's not Mercedes style front wing there is no cut out of front wing end plate. it's just they use some metal to cover joint of front wing flaps and end plate. Check the image below.
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AR3-GP wrote:
19 Feb 2023, 23:56
I was quite surprised that Craig Scarborough released this inaccurate sketch after the launch. It looks nothing like the car in the sidepod area.

Williams already scraped such an extreme departure angle of the sidepod. I'm sure the flow separates.

https://i.postimg.cc/g2HXc5p4/image.png
I don't think it's inaccurate, scarbs often uses photos and overlays drawings. I think the waterslide keeps the flow attached and I'm sure the team checked the behaviour in all adverse conditions.

What AMR could be doing with this extreme waterslide is inducing strong lift on top and trade it for massive downwash aimed at beam wing and possibly even the whole rear wing, something like Merc is doing with mid wing but placed inward. It would provide more clean air for both as well as increase the induced angle of attack. I'm really liking all the solutions of AMR23.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Blackout wrote:
19 Feb 2023, 23:35
If you look at the rear view studio picture, the waterslide never meets the floor before diffuser area. it goes up again, then down...
https://i.imgur.com/yal43Gw.jpg
Refer to this image. Scarbs depiction doesn’t look anything like this.

The water slides don’t go to the floor in the middle of the car.
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Vanja #66 wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 09:40
AR3-GP wrote:
19 Feb 2023, 23:56
I was quite surprised that Craig Scarborough released this inaccurate sketch after the launch. It looks nothing like the car in the sidepod area.

Williams already scraped such an extreme departure angle of the sidepod. I'm sure the flow separates.

https://i.postimg.cc/g2HXc5p4/image.png
I don't think it's inaccurate, scarbs often uses photos and overlays drawings. I think the waterslide keeps the flow attached and I'm sure the team checked the behaviour in all adverse conditions.

What AMR could be doing with this extreme waterslide is inducing strong lift on top and trade it for massive downwash aimed at beam wing and possibly even the whole rear wing, something like Merc is doing with mid wing but placed inward. It would provide more clean air for both as well as increase the induced angle of attack. I'm really liking all the solutions of AMR23.
Maybe with the steel angle of the ramp (contained within the fences of side pod and engine) behind the inlet they are able to swirl the air, energizes it and feeds the beam with with more air than a simple ramp.

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FW17 wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 09:55
Maybe with the steel angle of the ramp (contained within the fences of side pod and engine) behind the inlet they are able to swirl the air, energizes it and feeds the beam with with more air than a simple ramp.

https://images.all-free-download.com/im ... _16789.jpg
That's not really what happens, I can assure you :D That would mean loads of turbulence and losses, the air doesn't behave like that. Water maybe would, due to 800x higher density and 800x stronger inertial forces.

AR3-GP wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 09:44
Refer to this image. Scarbs depiction doesn’t look anything like this.

The water slides don’t go to the floor in the middle of the car.
This is scarb's original post



You can see the photo he took as reference. :)
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Did anyone notice the panels just before the floor stays? They are nowhere near racing standard finish.

Very likely they did no have the final panel finished, but a tantalizing thought it covers something we're yet to find out?

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Vanja #66 wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 10:00

That's not really what happens, I can assure you :D That would mean loads of turbulence and losses, the air doesn't behave like that. Water maybe would, due to 800x higher density and 800x stronger inertial forces.
AR3-GP wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 09:44
Refer to this image. Scarbs depiction doesn’t look anything like this.

The water slides don’t go to the floor in the middle of the car.
This is scarb's original post



You can see the photo he took as reference. :)
Okay I see I was fooled by the fake renders that AM released.
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AR3-GP wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 14:55

Okay I see I was fooled by the fake renders that AM released.
Which fake renders you mean?

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Curious thing to reveal but…
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muelte wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 15:04
AR3-GP wrote:
21 Feb 2023, 14:55

Okay I see I was fooled by the fake renders that AM released.
Which fake renders you mean?
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