Mercedes W14

[SmallSoldier]

Front wing detail (notice 3D printed winglets to aid outwash front tire wake):





Vía: AMUS

[SmallSoldier]

An angle we don’t usually see… Note the small VG’s on the raised winglet on the edge of the floor:



Vía: Albert Fabrega

[MV8]

Scarbs on point

[214270]

Are they running the same rear wing as yesterday?

[SmallSoldier]

Are they running the same rear wing as yesterday?

Yes

[CMSMJ1]

Toto says and all that stuff - please discuss in team thread

Thanks

[PhillipM]

Don't trust any of the publications unless it's a direct quote from a team member and verified elsewhere. They're all too eager to twist a single throwaway comment into what they like to drive engagement.

What we have at the minute is what's on the car on track right now, better to talk about that than what any publication dreams of *might* go on the car in their heads.

[mkay]

The W14 seems to have ironed out porpoising, but the car is so stiffly sprung it suffers on the kerbs and also lacks rear traction out of corners.

[AR3-GP]

The W14 seems to have ironed out porpoising, but the car is so stiffly sprung it suffers on the kerbs and also lacks rear traction out of corners.

Can't believe they built another dud of a suspension

Suspension stiffness is a very trivial thing to modify. They aren't locked into anything. It's a matter of softer torsion bars (or whatever springing medium they are using)

[zibby43]

The W14 seems to have ironed out porpoising, but the car is so stiffly sprung it suffers on the kerbs and also lacks rear traction out of corners.

Can't believe they built another dud of a suspension

Someone reign me back in if I’m out of pocket here, but I don’t think you’re in the position to definitively draw that conclusion on Day 2 of the test with the launch car as the team continues to pound around on harder compounds and 60 kilograms of fuel.

Just my 2 cents.

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[Sevach]

Good look at the strake extensions.

[organic]

[mechanoit]

Like i just said - Sky said it - but they said this was told to them by a Mercedes engineer. And sorry - since it makes little sense to me why either party would lie, I believe this Sky -Report. And so i also tend to believe someone who has built that car more. I think he knows better than anyone who compares it from pictures. Unfortunately, a very clear trend is emerging, whereby the statement of a Mercedes engineer naturally has the final weight, I think.

The interesting thing about this is, if true, that strangely enough the pictures that were said to be unrepresentative were the ones that showed the truth.But be it as it is - everyone should believe what he wants. I for my side believe there rather the Mercedes man. Because he should know. He knows both cars not only from photos. And now I'm going to bed - good night guys!

But you didn’t hear it directly from a Mercedes engineer and instead heard it through Sky. It is more likely that Sky have misunderstood, misinterpreted or mischaracterised what the Mercedes engineer told them. 200 mm change in cockpit position is massively significant. Even more so considering that it is already the most forward cockpit of all the cars. Mercedes render comparisons are more accurate and I believe the cockpit positions haven’t changed at all. But if they have, then I think it’s minimal. It’s more likely that the Mercedes engineer said something else to Sky who, as usual, completely messed up in their reporting. As is famously said, Lost in translation.

So I don't know how the Sky reporters are where you come from, but the German Sky reporters already understand what 20cm towards the front axle means...and with the Sky reporters in Germany it's not that they are a disaster. Or say they talked to a Mercedes engineer and when they did not. Why would you do that? Makes no sense. In retrospect, it would come out anyway. Our German Sky reporters already have that much brain.

I don’t have anywhere near the confidence you do of Sky reporters, German or otherwise. But it doesn’t surprise me in the least that someone who thinks a cockpit has moved 20 cm forward could also have high estimation of German Sky reporters.

I’ve been watching the W14 go around the track for 2 days, and right now parked on the track. 20 cm forward would be glaringly obvious. It would look so driver forward bias, like a Pagani Zonda does. There is no way the W14 cockpit is 20 cm forward of the already quite forward W13.

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