Yep… A lot of the rankings based on “feelings” and biased based on the comments made… Even before a single lap in testing was done, there was already doom and gloom simply because they preferred to do their shakedown in Bahrain instead of Silverstone… And the issues with the wheel brow exacerbated it.Emag wrote: ↑02 Mar 2023, 18:09https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... Tqm3W.html
I think people putting McLaren at 10th as the slowest team are very wrong.
The comments made by Stella during launch, in addition to the not so good testing form has made people jump to very negative conclusions.
I would honestly be very surprised if they are anywhere lower than the 6th fastest team in Bahrain.
Criticism is totally fine and even welcome...but 75% of the negative comments in this group over the last month have been pure trolling/baitingFittingMechanics wrote: ↑02 Mar 2023, 16:11
Btw I am not sure why are people here so against any kind of criticism? Is this supposed to be just positive comments about the team?
Alfa Romeo locks to be at a much better place than McL for the start of the season at least. We will see after Baku if we can make up lost ground.
Sweet. It’s good to see the targets set for this season were ambitious. But talk is cheap, the tech team now has to deliver the goods and start that real curve to ‘24 with all the new tools in place.
another important quote...Chicane wrote: ↑02 Mar 2023, 18:51Norris echoing my thoughts.
"We're behind where we should be and where we want to be. What we want to be having in Baku should be what we're starting the season with – if we want to be a top team".
https://www.pitdebrief.com/post/norris- ... -last-year
This kind of confirms my suspicion that we’re not going to see the real mcl60 till Baku an what we’re seeing now is the car McLaren wanted at the end of last year seems to be similar story with MercedesChicane wrote: ↑02 Mar 2023, 18:51Norris echoing my thoughts.
"We're behind where we should be and where we want to be. What we want to be having in Baku should be what we're starting the season with – if we want to be a top team".
https://www.pitdebrief.com/post/norris- ... -last-year
which means following ranking
That's definitely a shot fired by Norris to Zak and Stella, via the media.Chicane wrote: ↑02 Mar 2023, 18:51Norris echoing my thoughts.
"We're behind where we should be and where we want to be. What we want to be having in Baku should be what we're starting the season with – if we want to be a top team".
https://www.pitdebrief.com/post/norris- ... -last-year
Only at the very start of the season. What is important is the car we have at the end of the season. We may have to wait until Race 4 to have the car we want, but that doesn't mean it won't be a great car and be pushing us back to 4th fastest with a clear development path to get us closer to 3rd.
Stella said the Baku update is not a B-car. However, it was said during testing that Mercedes might be preparing to introduce a B-car mid-season if the current concept does not proof to be competitive. So at least we’re not the only ones that seem to be fooling around.Ground Effect wrote: ↑02 Mar 2023, 20:42Like I mentioned earlier, my strong suspicions are we'll effectively see a B car in Baku, of course, that's open to interpretation, but I do feel that's what's in the pipeline. As forthcoming as McLaren has been, it would be a very bad look to say you'll have a B car before the season starts, most teams take that route when the season starts and realise early they got it wrong. But for McLaren to talk about B car before the season starts, imagine what these journos would say, they'd have a field day. I'm not saying the got it wrong, but it seems they found a much better way, which may be in a very different development direction.
