Aston Martin AMR23

[AR3-GP]

The designers at AM really do love to play around with fillet rules. First ones to design the T tray wing and now this.

This part was on the Alpine too during pre-season testing.

[Alo_Fan]

Engine, gearbox, suspension yes

Do you think it's a concern that Merc could copy some ideas in terms of looking at suspension data? Really hope they don't come up with the same solutions.

[AR3-GP]

Engine, gearbox, suspension yes

Do you think it's a concern that Merc could copy some ideas in terms of looking at suspension data? Really hope they don't come up with the same solutions.

There’s certainly quite a bit of reverse engineering of the telemetry that Mercedes would be able to do with regards the AM’a downforce and drag numbers thanks to sharing the PU, gearbox, and suspension, but it is what it is.

AM are benefitting from the relationship too.

[Big Tea]

Engine, gearbox, suspension yes

Do you think it's a concern that Merc could copy some ideas in terms of looking at suspension data? Really hope they don't come up with the same solutions.

There are only so many ways to do the job with the same tools starting from a similar position and aiming at a particular result. The odds are that the outcome will be very similar, especially if the person doing the job has seen a version of it that fits his 'picture' of the solution, deliberately or not.

[Sevach]

Engine, gearbox, suspension yes

Do you think it's a concern that Merc could copy some ideas in terms of looking at suspension data? Really hope they don't come up with the same solutions.

Would the same solutions work with a very different aero balance/map? Probably not.
Suspensions in F1 are setup to maximize aero, with a few possible exceptions like the setup teams run in Monaco.

Can Mercedes deduce how much downforce Aston has by looking at their suspension data? I think so, but in end Mercedes still has to reach those numbers with their surfaces and floor.

[AR3-GP]

Engine, gearbox, suspension yes

Do you think it's a concern that Merc could copy some ideas in terms of looking at suspension data? Really hope they don't come up with the same solutions.

Would the same solutions work with a very different aero balance/map? Probably not.
Suspensions in F1 are setup to maximize aero, with a few possible exceptions like the setup teams run in Monaco.

Can Mercedes deduce how much downforce Aston has by looking at their suspension data? I think so, but in end Mercedes still has to reach those numbers with their surfaces and floor.

Mercedes isn't "looking" at Aston Martin's suspension data. They are just supplying parts. None of the telemetry is going back to Mercedes, beyond the embedded PU customer support staff.

[kediown]

I see a lot of similar strengths comparing to RB. Is there any pat it really differs? Could there be circuits that AM can challenge RB?

The car seems to have a very good mechanic grip, Monaco might fit their car

[organic]

I see a lot of similar strengths comparing to RB. Is there any pat it really differs? Could there be circuits that AM can challenge RB?

Monaco, Singapore look good for them but they ran higher df levels at Bahrain than RB so it's hard to get like for like.

[AR3-GP]

AMR ran this wing last year:

Perhaps it was testing for this season.

[Egresi Tamás]

#AMuS Michael Schmidt mentioned that an Aston Martin engineer told him that they did not want to be as good as the RB18 but better. When the car was in the wind tunnel, they realised they reached all their targets & were so surprised that they thought they made a mistake.

"The AMR23 is actually better than the RB18, but Red Bull has also improved compared to last year (9 tenths), which explains the gap between the two cars now (half a second)."

Michael Schmidt mentioned that Red Bull lost seven (!) engineers to Aston Martin in 2021

[ajprice]

Is there anything inside the outer wall sections of the sidepods on the AMR23? Would any internal aero like a nosecone S-duct be legal or be any use?

[Holm86]

Not sure if this had been posted, but it's a cool little video

[F1doc]

Not sure if this had been posted, but it's a cool little video

https://youtu.be/G49q1D0GrTU

I posted this in the team thread as it had no technical merit toward the AMR23.

I wonder how long it will be to see the same floor edge treatment the RB19 has on the AMR23 if the alleged similarities in concept are to be believed.

[Saykas]

Andreas Haupt, @andihaupt1, AMuS

[SiLo]

AMR23 floor annotated:

https://i.imgur.com/2D7zN1m.jpg

Is this similar to Red Bull in that the tunnels appear far more rounded all over and wide as well as low?