RB had lower speed in Bahrain due to higher DF rearwing only, and that not that much. Don't live in illusion that Ferrari finaly have something on them. There were instances last year where Ferrari already had higher top speed even last year also due to lower configuration, and remember where that took them - the same place as in Bahrain 2 weeks ago.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 15:36No doubt, we concurred the same here during Bahrain testing What organic was saying relates to specific drag level of the wing, which might be too high in Jeddah. On the other hand, SF-23 is very low drag and they can easily spare 1-2kmh of top speed for more downforce, they were already faster than RB19 in Bahrain in all conditions.Andi76 wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 15:32According to Formu1a.uno the new rear wings is more loaded
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Will be interesting to see what they choose for FP3, that should be a definitive indication of Q+R choice.
In this case, yes. I try to always point out that different aerofoils have different performance and L/D ratio, however in Ferrari's case I think it's quite clear that the aerofoil is basically the same along the span. The endplates are exactly the same for both wings also, so that very much cements the whole thing
No matter the design, RW is not too good on efficiency - especially now that endplates are open on top which leads to even worse L/D ratio. So if you add downforce and drag with RW, you'll surely lower the L/D of the whole car. However, we've seen the reports of Italian media that Ferrari had to run the car lower to make up some lost downforce, so they were compromised on aero in Bahrain no doubt. Maybe they'll want to trade some top speed for more liberty in aero and suspension setup...
Would be nice to see it from the top as the biggest difference between RBR and Ferrari on wings was the size of the planform.organic wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 17:50Autosport - Jon Noble
very wavy. Looks like less backed off in the outer section of the uppermost flap, and also they have the overhang/disconnect at the endplates (like the merc one of last season) for extra outwash
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... ing-1.webp
Only difference I see is the FWEP cutouts. Would need a top view to judge the planformorganic wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 17:50Autosport - Jon Noble
very wavy. Looks like less backed off in the outer section of the uppermost flap, and also they have the overhang/disconnect at the endplates (like the merc one of last season) for extra outwash
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... ing-1.webp
thank you for the very useful piczioture wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 19:18Then take a good look at my photo taken in bahrain it's the same... !!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrW34KCXwAs ... name=large
Flaps do look the same size and shape, no increase in surface that i can tell.organic wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 19:28thank you for the very useful piczioture wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 19:18Then take a good look at my photo taken in bahrain it's the same... !!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrW34KCXwAs ... name=large
The endplate cutout + strengthening only then?
This was last race. Endplates have no cutouts:Sevach wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 19:49Flaps do look the same size and shape, no increase in surface that i can tell.organic wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 19:28thank you for the very useful piczioture wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 19:18Then take a good look at my photo taken in bahrain it's the same... !!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrW34KCXwAs ... name=large
The endplate cutout + strengthening only then?
in the background on the left there is the new Fw..organic wrote: ↑16 Mar 2023, 17:50Autosport - Jon Noble
very wavy. Looks like less backed off in the outer section of the uppermost flap (edit - the flaps seem to be the same from another photo below in the thread) , and also they have the overhang/disconnect at the endplates (like the merc one of last season) for extra outwash
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... ing-1.webp