Red Bull RB19

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Vanja #66
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mclaren111 wrote:
04 Apr 2023, 11:02
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fso1VxoWIAA ... name=large

Attention to detail by RB is great...
Loving how those experts always focus on external edge details, but fail to notice both 3rd and 4th elements are actually new on this mid-downforce front wing :mrgreen:
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
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Vanja #66 wrote:
04 Apr 2023, 11:43
mclaren111 wrote:
04 Apr 2023, 11:02
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fso1VxoWIAA ... name=large

Attention to detail by RB is great...
Loving how those experts always focus on external edge details, but fail to notice both 3rd and 4th elements are actually new on this mid-downforce front wing :mrgreen:
It is shown by the green arrows.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
04 Apr 2023, 11:43
mclaren111 wrote:
04 Apr 2023, 11:02
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fso1VxoWIAA ... name=large

Attention to detail by RB is great...
Loving how those experts always focus on external edge details, but fail to notice both 3rd and 4th elements are actually new on this mid-downforce front wing :mrgreen:
Hello Vanja, I have market the new 3rd and 4th element in yellow and green. The text also indicates it. Regards, Nicolas

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It wasn't credited but those images are from Nicholas Carpentiers, his content is among the best if not the best in all of F1 photojournalism. Many of the tech images available from the past few years are from him, and he's practically the only one who makes collage/gallery images professionally outside of forums. Plus we get to learn place names in French.
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That front wing from Melbourne looks identical to the Bahrain one to be fair (from my quick look). Bahrain was page 22 onwards of this thread for detailed pics.

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Credit: Albert Fabrega for the pic.

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Vanja #66
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Cassius wrote:
04 Apr 2023, 12:55
It is shown by the green arrows.
Not really, green arrows show the movement of the leading edge of flap 4 relative to LE of flap 3, best observed on bottom images.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
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chrisc90 wrote:
04 Apr 2023, 21:32
That front wing from Melbourne looks identical to the Bahrain one to be fair (from my quick look). Bahrain was page 22 onwards of this thread for detailed pics.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqSoCsOWYAI ... ame=medium
Credit: Albert Fabrega for the pic.

Is it me or are the cooling gills on the engine cover gone? Did they replace it with a larger hole at the back? What would be the advantage for such a change? So many questions

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Vanja #66 wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 00:41
Cassius wrote:
04 Apr 2023, 12:55
It is shown by the green arrows.
Not really, green arrows show the movement of the leading edge of flap 4 relative to LE of flap 3, best observed on bottom images.
You know very well front wing flaps are not overlapping, I.e. there is no different profile when you look from the bottom. What you see is what you get here, so the green arrow does indicate a bigger area for the 3rd flap.

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nicolas wrote:
04 Apr 2023, 14:50
Hello Vanja, I have market the new 3rd and 4th element in yellow and green. The text also indicates it. Regards, Nicolas
Hello Nicolas, I apologise, the illustration is not completely clear and only the image (without watermark) was posted here, not the full tweet. I appreciate your work. :)

Cassius wrote:
05 Apr 2023, 07:59
You know very well front wing flaps are not overlapping, I.e. there is no different profile when you look from the bottom. What you see is what you get here, so the green arrow does indicate a bigger area for the 3rd flap.
Flaps are always overlapping, but only slightly (around 10-15mm at most), that was my point. It had to be another 3rd element and Nicolas cleared things up above.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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nicolas wrote:
04 Apr 2023, 14:50
Regards, Nicolas
:wtf: How did I miss this? Didn't even realize you had an account here. Welcome!
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Vanja #66 wrote:
04 Apr 2023, 11:43
mclaren111 wrote:
04 Apr 2023, 11:02
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fso1VxoWIAA ... name=large

Attention to detail by RB is great...
Loving how those experts always focus on external edge details, but fail to notice both 3rd and 4th elements are actually new on this mid-downforce front wing :mrgreen:
Same elements, just the edges clipped in jeddah it seems to me
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"Flow Biz to understand the greatness of Red Bull's diffuser

You can clearly see the line going up from the kick point of the tunnel

The most important thing is that it rises cleanly from the central flat bottom"


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No perez underfloor up to now?
For Sure!!

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ringo wrote:
12 Apr 2023, 05:43
No perez underfloor up to now?
Seems not. I've been on the lookout

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From an interview with Matthew Somerfield on Missed Apex podcast at the weekend…
“It seems that the marshals have been warned not to lift the cars any more than is strictly necessary”…
… “I haven’t had ANY photos of ANY underfloor past my desk this year”…
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