2023 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 28 - 30

[chrisc90]

2nd time Max has done a restart like that. Pure genius.

My guess is itll not be long before people complain and a ruling gets put in like the last time.

Ruling like what? They are required to cross the line in single file?

Being alongside before the lead car 'goes for it'

[Mogster]

2nd time Max has done a restart like that. Pure genius.

My guess is itll not be long before people complain and a ruling gets put in like the last time.

Ruling like what? They are required to cross the line in single file?

That’s how Indycar do rolling re-starts. Single file, no gaps between cars.

Someone is going to see Max acelebrating early and back off, then we’ll have a pile up of epic proportions…

[AR3-GP]

2nd time Max has done a restart like that. Pure genius.

My guess is itll not be long before people complain and a ruling gets put in like the last time.

Ruling like what? They are required to cross the line in single file?

That’s how Indycar do rolling re-starts. Single file, no gaps between cars.

Someone is going to see Max acelebrating early and back off, then we’ll have a pile up of epic proportions…

Verstappen isn't the only driver to do this.


It would be ironic if after making a mess of the sport to spice up the show, the FIA would then try to make sure there is no racing on the restart.

[chrisc90]

2nd time Max has done a restart like that. Pure genius.

My guess is itll not be long before people complain and a ruling gets put in like the last time.

Ruling like what? They are required to cross the line in single file?

That’s how Indycar do rolling re-starts. Single file, no gaps between cars.

Someone is going to see Max acelebrating early and back off, then we’ll have a pile up of epic proportions…

You cant do that though. Once you have chosen to go, after driving at your steady speed, you have to continue to 'go'. You cant decide to floor it and lift off again as its against the rules. Exactly why Lewis couldnt lift off slightly in Zandvoort last year, and George couldnt do it today. It would be a easy way to make the car behind fall foul of overtaking before the start/finish line.

[chrisc90]

Pace of the top 3 was another league compared to everyone else today. Mid point in the race they were about 7-8tenths faster than everyone else.

[langedweil]

So, he never saw him in a much faster car, great detective work there. Without DRS they were more evenly matched, Russell then put the manners on Max.

You do understand that delta's too small to overtake by themselves created drs in the first place, right ?
He did nothing more really than just regular defending (which is perfectly fine), but to say he put manners on him .. any driver could/would do the same.
But hey, if you feel Crofty's way of thinking is the correct one, then that's fine.

You must have missed the part where he swept back past him, it was brilliant from Russell.

I did not .. that was just proper racing after good defending, true that. And as plus to that, it was without touching.
Look, GR is no goof by any measure and surely has very good racecraft, but eversince he joined F1 he didn't put manners to anyone.
And today was good racing as well, even heading for T2; you just shouldn't brake extremely late, oversteer in someone else, break that car, and end it off with stating that an overtake from to outside is silly .. especially when you're only ahead after crashing a hole in the sidepod and bang that car to wall. That is Bottesque Bowling ..
The action was fine, but GR created the contact .. which he shouldn't have done.

[Matt2725]

I seriously think Russell would have got the better of Max in 2021 in that Mercedes, he knows how to race the Dutch driver.

Indeed, when the playing field is levelled out, he often has gotten the better of Max. Spain 2022 springs to mind.

Hahaha .. you do know that drs wasn't working when 'he had the better of Max', right ?
As soon as it worked and he passed, he never saw him again ...

The first time Max got past with DRS, Russell mugged him into T2 and got back ahead. Max didn't get back ahead until he had to pit again and performed effectively an undercut.

[AR3-GP]

delete.

[langedweil]

Nevertheless, aside from the GR/MV shenanigans .. this sprint format just ruins the weekend buildup. It's a raceweekend within a raceweekend. I'm not even sure I'll watch tomorrow .. it is a bit too much of the same thing with the Friday involved.

[Tvetovnato]

Verstappen has to have the worst self-awareness in the history of sports. Funny how it’s always ”hard but fair” racing when he dive bombs people off track or makes other illegal moves, but when someone races him hard inside what the rules actually allow and he loses the battle, they must be punished.

We can be 100 % sure of a delibarate retaliation before the season ends where he crashes out George on purpose after he has secured the title after race 15.

[chrisc90]

Verstappen has to have the worst self-awareness in the history of sports. Funny how it’s always ”hard but fair” racing when he dive bombs people off track or makes other illegal moves, but when someone races him hard inside what the rules actually allow and he loses the battle, they must be punished.

We can be 100 % sure of a delibarate retaliation before the season ends where he crashes out George on purpose after he has secured the title after race 15.

Which part of the rules allow you to send it up the inside and bit into your opponent who's infront, then push them wide into the wall?

[V12-POWER]

race incident, thats it. now forget about it

[PlatinumZealot]

Max got some of his own medicine. I was quite shocked he made George do him like that. Not this Max that was white knuckle racing in 2021? Has he gone soft?

[Tvetovnato]

Verstappen has to have the worst self-awareness in the history of sports. Funny how it’s always ”hard but fair” racing when he dive bombs people off track or makes other illegal moves, but when someone races him hard inside what the rules actually allow and he loses the battle, they must be punished.

We can be 100 % sure of a delibarate retaliation before the season ends where he crashes out George on purpose after he has secured the title after race 15.

Which part of the rules allow you to send it up the inside and bit into your opponent who's infront, then push them wide into the wall?

Did you apply this logic of yours to the first lap in AD 21 when Max was fully behind before the braking zone, still sent it up the inside and forced another driver off track?

You were kind enough to post a video showing that Russell was partly alongside Max all the way up to T2. A champion driver would expect the car on the inside to take the opportunity to go for a completely legitimate move, accept defeat in that corner, and get him on the straight next time around.

[chrisc90]

AD21 1st lap...no contact and there was enough room left. Max also had completed the overtake by the apex of the corner, and made the corner himself so there was no concern. Poor reference to pull up to defend your point IMHO.

What does surprise me though, is the incident wasnt even noted by the stewards, given the contact (minimal appearing damage I have to admit) but it was out in the open the lap after. Strange one.