Aston Martin AMR23

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CaribouBread wrote:
02 May 2023, 05:37
KimiRai wrote:
01 May 2023, 20:01
https://i.imgur.com/x0rYVY5.jpg
I wonder if that bulge halfway down the top gulley is a packaging compromise or a deliberate aero choice.
It just crossed my mind the air coming into the sidepods from the front has to get to the center of the car somehow to be able to exit the rear.

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diffuser wrote:
05 May 2023, 03:24
CaribouBread wrote:
02 May 2023, 05:37
KimiRai wrote:
01 May 2023, 20:01
https://i.imgur.com/x0rYVY5.jpg
I wonder if that bulge halfway down the top gulley is a packaging compromise or a deliberate aero choice.
It just crossed my mind the air coming into the sidepods from the front has to get to the center of the car somehow to be able to exit the rear.
I think so, the louvers at the top suggest the air goes inboard.
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Yes, that bulge is about where the engine region is. It's at about the same location on the RB. Between the halo and the cannon, where the Red Bull text is.
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diffuser wrote:
02 May 2023, 13:57
peewon wrote:
02 May 2023, 06:58
CaribouBread wrote:
02 May 2023, 05:37


I wonder if that bulge halfway down the top gulley is a packaging compromise or a deliberate aero choice.
Has to be an aero choice to accelerate the air as these massive swoop downs can cause the air to lose energy.

There is always a aero choice but the exhaust is there.

Accelerating the air would create lift.
I may be out of my depth here but wouldn't it require an airfoil shape for lift to be generated? I didn't think it was. I thought the main goal here would be to avoid air flow separation so that air being channeled to the beam wing remains energized. I also remember a pre season preview with Scarbs mentioning air flow separation at the bottom as a potential problem with this dramatic waterslide concept.

The CFD analysis from the Vanja and Shubh videos also show that area to be -ve pressure with quite a bit of separation. Very open to being corrected by more qualified people here.

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peewon wrote:
05 May 2023, 09:04
diffuser wrote:
02 May 2023, 13:57
peewon wrote:
02 May 2023, 06:58


Has to be an aero choice to accelerate the air as these massive swoop downs can cause the air to lose energy.

There is always a aero choice but the exhaust is there.

Accelerating the air would create lift.
I may be out of my depth here but wouldn't it require an airfoil shape for lift to be generated? I didn't think it was. I thought the main goal here would be to avoid air flow separation so that air being channeled to the beam wing remains energized. I also remember a pre season preview with Scarbs mentioning air flow separation at the bottom as a potential problem with this dramatic waterslide concept.

The CFD analysis from the Vanja and Shubh videos also show that area to be -ve pressure with quite a bit of separation. Very open to being corrected by more qualified people here.
The whole car is a foil. The whole thing about ground effects is the acceleration of air below the floor to drop it's pressure and generate DF. If you're also accelerating the above the floor,in those areas, you creating lift.

Often the surface of a car is used to guide air to a specific area. If the surface's curvature is too acute, it risks the air not following and seperating from the surface. Of course, it is possible that one purposely made the surface's curvature too acute to cause separation exactly where they wanted it.

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It seems no upgrade for this weekend; anyone can confirm?

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Looks like no longbow. Only looks like it from the outside.
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Looks like the link is continuous across the chassis (flat plane under top "bracket") but with tether mounts visible at each side possibly ?

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Is that a 3 plane front wing in pictures immediate above post ?

Or is one of them hidden from view with low angle of camera's position relative to car ?

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Farnborough wrote:
06 May 2023, 18:04
Is that a 3 plane front wing in pictures immediate above post ?

Or is one of them hidden from view with low angle of camera's position relative to car ?
There are 4 to my eye. Look where the elements meet the nose cone. You can count 4.
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